On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 2:32 PM, Isarra Yos <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 10/11/15 22:25, Isarra Yos wrote: > > Hi, thank you for your response. This does clarify a lot. > > Why do you make the distinction that UX designers also do visual when you > stated already that you also have specifically visual designers? Are the > visual designers the ones doing the UI standardisation? > > How does Design Research relate to the rest of this? You state that they > are not designers, but their work is an integral part of the user > experience design process. > > Hi Isarra, Yeah, the current organizational structure is confusing that way. However, Design Research works pretty closely with designers (although we don't currently work on every product... that's partially a capacity issue, and it needs to change). To take one example: I've been working with Pau Giner on a series of user studies to evaluate the design of a new Notifications prototype: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Global_notifications_user_research And FWIW, 'UX [designer, engineer]' is a title that I've never been able to parse either ;) J > > Also, in the future, could you please use a darker colour (or even just > leave it as the default) for your emails? That grey is really hard to read > and I misread a few things the first time that made it look a little... > different from what you obviously meant. > > Thanks! > > On 10/11/15 22:04, Sherah Smith wrote: > > Hi Isarra, > > >> what is the 'design team'? > > Even though the design team (as it used to be) is now split out under > different managers with no centralized Director, we still consider > ourselves a "team" in that we still work together across teams to maintain > consistency and provide feedback, collaborate, and review one another's > work where needed. We have a weekly meeting and regularly talk and > brainstorm in person across teams to support one another in our work. > > Design Research is the team that conducts research that informs the design > of products we build on all other teams. The employees on this team are not > designers. > > Reading Design is a sub-team under Reading, and it designs reading > experiences, mostly for mobile platforms. Where you see "Visual Designer" > as a title, that person works on visual designs. "UX Designer" works on > combinations of visual and user experience design, mostly the latter, and > "UX Engineer" builds interactive prototypes and interaction design. > > The reorganization that you reference happened in late April this year and > was not a decision the design team itself made. Rather, it came from upper > management. We do now work within the teams you see listed on the staff > page, on experiences for those teams specifically. So for example, you will > not see a designer on the Search & Discovery team working on experiences > for the Editing team. > > Is there a particular concern you have about this organization that you > feel like we should be discussing, or does this answer your questions? > > Thank you, > > > On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 1:21 PM, Isarra Yos <[email protected]> wrote: > >> From time to time I see references to the 'design team' on lists and on >> phabricator. But what does this really mean now? As I understood it, the >> previous monolithic Design Team was essentially disbanded toward the >> beginning of the year, with the designers themselves distributed amongst >> the other WMF teams in order to more directly integrate their services into >> the development workflow (which sounds like a pretty good idea to me, at >> least, since design is such an integral part of most development). Did this >> happen? According to >> https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Staff_and_contractors, there seem >> to still be two teams now with the word 'design' in their names, Reading >> Design and Design Research, though these both seem to have somewhat more >> specialised functions than just general design, namely Reading (sounds like >> front-end non-interactive mw stuff, the visuals perhaps?) and Research. >> >> So what is the 'design team'? Is it one of these, though the teams only >> have 5 and 4 people on them, respectively? Is it just WMF designers in >> general? >> >> As much as this is also just a plea to please be more specific, if you >> have an actual answer, or if you have been saying this, please, speak up, >> share your experience and where you're coming from. As confusing as it is, >> I suspect a discussion of what and why this has been going on could also >> clear up quite a bit. >> >> Thanks. >> >> -I >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Design mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/design >> > > > > -- > *Sherah Smith* > UX Engineer > Wikimedia Foundation > 206-660-6585 > sherahsmith.com > donate.wikipedia.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Design mailing > [email protected]https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/design > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Design mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/design > > -- Jonathan T. Morgan Senior Design Researcher Wikimedia Foundation User:Jmorgan (WMF) <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Jmorgan_(WMF)>
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