selva r wrote:
Even though the user may be working on say the email tab, the Memo and Task tabs could still show triage summary status numbers for items in each of their subapplications within their tabs.  For example the Memo subapplication tab might look like this:

Selva,
This is one of many suggestions that is completely disconnected from the actual product that OSAF is creating. It seems more like you're designing your own product in your head and using OSAF's design list as a place to dump your ideas. We already have 3 products (Chandler, Cosmo, Scooby) that are being designed list. We don't need another one.

I say this not because I don't understand what you're saying. I understand what a Tab is. I understand what a subapplication is. We've said many times that we're not doing "subapplications" and I'm not sure how you're suggesting tab content when there hasn't even been a coherent proposal to have tabs in the first place. In fact, we removed the tabs from the product over a year ago. There has also been no coherent proposal for a "slide in / slide out Calendar Day view panel" that you described earlier. You've gone into great detail describing what each of these features are, but have yet to explain how they fit into the existing design of Chandler - the product that we offer for download, the one that really exists.

I might suggest that before you make new posts that go into great detail about your own proposals to this design list, you stop and instead ask yourself if anyone has even validated the original proposal for Chandler. Has anyone actually replied and said "that seems like a good idea, could you explain?" My feeling is that most people read your long descriptions and throw up their hands with frustration because they don't know what you're talking about. I have yet to see anyone reply to say that one of your proposals is a good idea, and I'm sure one of the reasons is because nobody understands what your proposals have to do with Chandler.

They say pictures speak louder than words. Why don't you try getting a drawing program of some kind, and start creating mockup-screenshots of the designs you've proposed? The easiest way to do this is to start with a screenshot of the real Chandler, and then modify it in a drawing program to make it look like you'd like to see it look. This is how we do many of our proposals. In fact, please don't start with anything other than a real Chandler screenshot - we're not going to be redesigning the UI anytime soon so it would be best if your proposals were iterations on our existing product rather than some far-out proposal for a product that doesn't exist.

Instead of page-long descriptions of features nobody understands, we would at least see what you're talking about visually. You may have noticed that many of mimi's proposals include screenshots of what the product might look like and thus people are able to understand her designs and give constructive feedback. She also provides multiple alternatives in a visual form.

For making your mockups, here are a few options:
1) The Gimp - http://www.gimp.org/ - absolutely free, though a little hard to use
2) Fireworks - http://www.macromedia.com/software/fireworks/ - very easy to use, have a 30-day trial version
3) Photoshop http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop/ - also offers a 30-day trial version

I'm sure there are many other free options out there.

Alec
Memo
7, 10, 35

The 7 might be in green showing that Memo tab has 7 now items to attend to.  The 10 might be in yellow indicating there are 10 Later items pending in this subapp.  The 35 might be in black color indicating the number of Done status items in this subapp.

Offering the user the choice between frames vs. tabs allows optimal layout preferences for both large screen monitors and laptops with small screens.

The pull out side panels on the left and right sides of the main Dashboard window for Collections / Preview text, and Calendar Day view respectively, might be offered on the tabbed Dashboard set up the same way as described recently for the three framed Dashboard.

Selva

selva r <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I'm making a modification to my previous suggestion given below on a proposal for Dashboard's general layout. 

Since depicting collections probably will not require a lot of space for most small collections, the pull out panel on the left side of the main Dashboard window might be divided into a top and bottom half along the middle with a demarcating line.  The top half of this pull out panel could be used for depicting collections. 

The bottom half could be used for previewing the text of the item selected within any of the three frames of the main Dashboard window.  This way users could preview the initial portion of texts from email items, memo items, and task items without having to double click the item into the second level Dashboard window.

--Selva

selva r <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Due to recent discussion issues, I would like to suggest the following general layout design for Dashboard.

For it to be powerful enough to handle moderate to large volumes of data through Chandler's triage workflow system, I would think that it would be best to have three frames.

1) Email InBox
2) Memos
3) Tasks

In addition, two slide in / slide out panels on each side might be considered. 

On the left side of the main Dashboard window, we could have the collections panel where collections associated with items that are selected within the main Dashboard window could be displayed even without having to double click the item into the second level of Dashboard as previously described.

On the right side, we could have a slide in / slide out Calendar Day view panel.

Both side panels might be extended or collapsed as per the user's needs depending on their monitor screen size.

If we want to get fancy later on, the slide out Calendar Day view panel might include a brief, one line five day weather forecast at the bottom using typical weather icons which would be automatically updated at regular intervals when the user is on line.  Of course, this feature entails that during initial installation of Chandler, the user would be querried about their city of residence.

--Selva
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