I thought this conversation on IRC today was good dog-fooding feedback on some of the cognitive challenges around Sharing in 0.6. Everything from setting up accounts to understand at what "granularity" sharing happens. Not to mention where to go when you want to start sharing. It's also clear that "who" you're sharing with is an important element of the workflow and helps to orient people when figuring out how to start the workflow. dillera > hello I'm playing with the .6 release 14:11 dillera > And I'm looking for some basic docs on how you go about sharing calendar items with a group.... 14:11 dillera > I don't really see any, I'm just wondering if they exist or I should just play around with it. I've deployed my own cosomo server. 14:12 Geofferic > ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) left #chandler. 14:12 Morgen > I'm not sure there are step by step instructions at the moment 14:13 mitch > (~[EMAIL PROTECTED]) joined #chandler. 14:13 Morgen > Basically, you just need to set up a user on cosmo first. 14:13 dillera > well not step by step 14:13 lisa > Hi Dillera 14:13 lisa > have you created an account for yourself on the cosmo server? 14:13 dillera > but more end user type stuff 14:13 dillera > I don't see much beyond the cosmo docs. 14:13 lisa > when you do that, the "account information" response is basically a form for how to fill out a "sharing server" preference form in Chandler 14:13 dillera > I have my cosmo server and I've created some accounts. 14:13 dillera > Yes, I'm on my cosomo server with some clients 14:13 Morgen > In Chandler, go to File | Accounts... 14:14 dillera > but I want to get a feel for how a group actaully shares their calendars 14:14 Morgen > and enter in a new Sharing account matching one of the cosmo accounts 14:14 Morgen > Then I would do File | New Collection... 14:14 dillera > Yes, I have the client setup on my cosmo server.... 14:14 Morgen > which will add a collection to the sidebar, which you can rename 14:15 Morgen > Next, add some events to the calendar by doubleclicking 14:15 dillera > Ah, ok- A collection is like a new calendar (say like in iCal -- from apple) 14:15 Morgen > Then, with the collection you want to share selected in the sidebar... 14:15 Morgen > yes collection is a unit of things you can share 14:15 Morgen > Since we're highly calendar centric right now... 14:15 Morgen > think of it as a calendar 14:16 Morgen > So select the collection you want to share in the sidebar, then do Collection | Share 14:16 dillera > Yep, I can see that in the future it will hold all sorts of goodies. 14:16 Morgen > It will bring up a dialog that lets you pick which sharing account you want to publish using 14:17 (Nick change: aparna_mtg -> aparna) 14:17 Morgen > It will now publish your calendar/collection to cosmo (or whatever DAV server) 14:17 Morgen > and it will return you two URLS 14:17 dillera > Yes, and this account is one that I made that corresponds to my well known userid. 14:17 dillera > Do others have to use that account to subscribe? 14:18 Morgen > If you give someone the read-write url and they subscribe to that with their chandler, they can access the calendar 14:18 dillera > The login with their own account and somehow can find that collection? 14:18 Morgen > no, they don't need an account 14:18 Morgen > only the person first publishing the calendar needs a cosmo account 14:18 Morgen > If you want to share calendars with others, they don't need accounts 14:18 dillera > Ok, so the account is almost like the group account itself. 14:18 Morgen > Those URLs you get when publishing are encoded with read-write versus read-only info 14:19 dillera > As long as people have the R/W URL they can modify it.... 14:19 Morgen > yes 14:19 dillera > yes, I see that. 14:19 dillera > ok that makes some more sense. 14:19 Morgen > If only one person needs to initiate a new calendar, then only one cosmo account is needed 14:19 dillera > I'm used to using Sunbird & Mulberry Calendar on our Apache webdav share..... 14:19 dillera > and it gets to be a big giant mess after a while. 14:19 Morgen > Chandler will also publish to apache mod_dav 14:19 heikki > (~[EMAIL PROTECTED]) left irc: Ping timeout: 378 seconds 14:20 dillera > Ok, I like the cosmo server however, very portable as a tomcat app. 14:20 Morgen > There is also a #cosmo irc room 14:20 dillera > good, because I can't seem to get SSL working on it. 14:21 dillera > but that is a later step. 14:21 Morgen > Can't help you there... :-) 14:22 dillera > btw I like the 'experimentally usable calendar' tagline on the splash screen.... 14:22 Morgen > heh 14:23 Morgen > Oh, so to finish the sharing steps: another chandler can subscribe to a calendar by doing: Collection | Subscribe, and then entering in one of those URLs into the dialog 14:23 Morgen > You can sync all your shared collections with the Sync All button in the toolbar 14:24 dillera > Ok, nice - and on another client I do Connection/Subscribe and put in that URL. 14:24 dillera > And I've got my Collection now. 14:24 Morgen > right 14:24 dillera > This is actaully much much easier. 14:24 Morgen > If you then add an item on one client, sync, then sync the other, voila 14:24 dillera > Only mangers etc. need to create the accounts/collections. 14:24 Morgen > yep, that's one way to use it 14:25 dillera > Yes, this can work very well for us. 14:25 Morgen > great 14:25 Morgen > there are some rough edges 14:25 dillera > People gave up on Sunbird, and I don't blame them. 14:25 dillera > Yes, they say that about Exchange also :) 14:25 Morgen > especially sharing recurring events, but we've got plans for fixing them in 0.7 14:25 Morgen > ha 14:26 Morgen > back later |
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