Thanks Simone but just before I read your fix I managed to get my system
working, after and lot of googling and fiddling. It was dead simple once
I found out what to do (but aren't most things, once figured out?)

I tinkered with /etc/network/interfaces
my original was like this

auto lo
iface lo inet loopback
address 127.0.0.1
netmask 255.0.0.0

and now it is like this

auto lo
iface lo inet loopback
address 127.0.0.1
netmask 255.0.0.0

iface ppp0 inet ppp
provider tiscali

iface eth0 inet dhcp

iface eth1 inet dhcp

I can select tiscali from the network manager right-click dialup connections 
and hang up later instead of pon tiscali / poff
I can see and connect to wireless when a signal is around and I guess I will be 
able to plug a cat5 cable and get a network if one was to hand.

FF3 now knows it is on line and starts accordingly.  Kmail sends and
receives mail fine.  skype and kopete work fine (always did but nice to
know I've not messed them up).

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[MASTER] "Offline Mode" feature fails to detect proper online state for 
networks that are managed outside of network manager.
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/191889
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