Thanks Simone but just before I read your fix I managed to get my system working, after and lot of googling and fiddling. It was dead simple once I found out what to do (but aren't most things, once figured out?)
I tinkered with /etc/network/interfaces my original was like this auto lo iface lo inet loopback address 127.0.0.1 netmask 255.0.0.0 and now it is like this auto lo iface lo inet loopback address 127.0.0.1 netmask 255.0.0.0 iface ppp0 inet ppp provider tiscali iface eth0 inet dhcp iface eth1 inet dhcp I can select tiscali from the network manager right-click dialup connections and hang up later instead of pon tiscali / poff I can see and connect to wireless when a signal is around and I guess I will be able to plug a cat5 cable and get a network if one was to hand. FF3 now knows it is on line and starts accordingly. Kmail sends and receives mail fine. skype and kopete work fine (always did but nice to know I've not messed them up). -- [MASTER] "Offline Mode" feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/191889 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs