Hello. Thanks for the quick reply. Are you the 'gnome' behind Gnome? My responses between yours.....
On 11/10/14 17:01, Alberts Muktupāvels wrote: > 1. gnome-session-fallback is build from gnome-panel source code that is why > your computer is saying problem is with gnome-panel. I figured something like that - but for the average user of Ubuntu, there is NO way to know this.... > 2. reinstalling gnome-session-fallback should not solve anything. It is > transitional package and does not contain anyting. Problem is somewhere else. > This package can be removed. Surprising....both that is can be removed and that it always [100% of the time] will temporarily solve the problem for the next session only! > 3. GNOME Fallback is now called GNOME Flashback. I'll take a look in synaptic...again, such renamings are not known to the average user and create confusion. You who work with and build the programs know these things - but most do not - and have need to know [or not have names changed]. I don't understand why there are now two flavors of 'fallback'. > > Have you tried to re-select session from login screen? GNOME Flashback > (Metacity) and/or GNOME Flashback (Compiz). Yes, many times. The two both will not work. Other desktops seem to work - I just don't like them and it is fallback that has my years of personalization [most, not all of it, carried over from 12.04-14.04 > Maybe there is some problems > upgrading from 12.04 to 14.04. Likely - and it is frustrating that while the system prompts for hitting the upgrade button [as if all will go well], Linux geeks always advise a 'clean install'. I'd do a clean install if someone would tell me [or point to a url instructing how to QUICKLY [no more than a day's work] get back what I had before in: programs, basic look, and functionality. I have a package list, but once before [when upgrading into 12.04] tried to run that on a clean install, all I got was a */mess/*....no doubt because many of the packages are not supported by the new distribution and/or dependencies are not met or different, etc. I understand that theoretically, but not how to run it so that this doesn't cause problems. This upgrade otherwise seems to have gone OK [had to reinstall grub and fight with new AMD drivers - taking several days for me....but then I thought it was good to go and liked the new features....but...the problem is now persistent and I'm using 12.04 most of the time again. > > Are you using extra ppa? In tags there is gnome3-ppa. I believe I have 3.10 - I have not tried to install 3.14. I thought 3.10 was the basic one in 14.04 but I could be wrong. Again, such things are not explained nor told to the average user and endless research on the internet I do only as needed [which is often]. A weekly newsletter of changes, common problems etc. might be a good idea from the geeks and developers to the average user. > Not sure, but this > might cause problems if there is installed newer GNOME components. newer than what? What should I..and how can I 'downgrade' if too high now? > > Can you right click on desktop? Is nautilus autostarted or you are > getting completly empty screen. I can't do ANYTHNG - no keyboard or mouse clicks do anything...though the mouse cursor moves. The folders and icons on the desktop are there - but NO panels [which have my launchers]. I can't get a terminal...so must push the button on the computer to turn off and back on....annoying and likely bad for the system too. > > Can you attach extra log file? I would like to see ~/.cache/upstart > /gnome-session-Unity.log. After you fail to login, restart PC and then > login in GNOME session (not in Unity), then attach asked file. Yes, I > need gnome-session-Unity.log, don't ask why. Hmmm.....I'm in 12.04 now and will send that in a few hours. sorry to not have noticed this request before starting. Don't worry, I won't ask why. ;-) Thanks again! gnome log coming soon. Just made a note..but must get some work done first. Peter > -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-panel in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1380095 Title: Gnome Fallback[s] don't work in 14.04. Work once ONLY if reinstalled To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-panel/+bug/1380095/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
