Sorry to oppose the opinion of those who probaly know the system much
better than me, but it is simply NOT TRUE that neither Ubuntu nor
especially Mutter is responsible for the huge step backward, the missing
positioning of windows on the screen what was always possible since the
80's.  AND it is neither true, that USING Wayland becomes impossible to
handle the positioning.

Wayland side:  now I am in Mutter over Wayland w/o Xorg, and the top bar
on the screen is NOT appearing randomly depending on the situation, but
it is always aligned on the top of the actual screen, and it never
extends to the other screen.  HENCE the location of top, the location of
top-left corner and the location of the top-right corner CAN BE handled,
--- and I need exactly that:

        gnome-terminal --geometry=+0+0   == I wish a terminal into the
top-left corner

        gnome-terminal --geometry=-0+0   == I wish a terminal into the
top-right corner

Ubuntu side:  it is not Wayland but Ubuntu who made DEFAULT this Wayland
w/o Xorg any warnings at the login screen, and even the fact that "the
current login will fall into Wayladn w/o Xorg OR there will be Xorg
services" IS HIDDEN, NOT SHOWN rigth where the account name and the
password is due.  HENCE Ubuntu as a strategic decider IS involved in the
case.

Mutter side:  it is not true that Mutter is not capable to handle the
positioning w/o Xorg, there are PLENTY evidences and indications, that
Muter DOES EXACLTY KNOW where the edges of my two physical screens are.

HENCE in spite of the backward downgrading of the Wayland protocol,
Mutter is NOT behindered in knowing the rectangles of my two physical
creens.

Therefore Mutter IS also responsible, that the positioning of a gnome-
terminal dos not work any longer if the default of Ubuntu is Wayland w/o
Xorg.

Sorry, I understand, that I could invoke the Xorg services which are now
considered obsolote by Ubuntu, ...

... but I use computers since 1972, I was an active adult in parallel
with the development of computer systems.  HENCE my experience, that
better not to deviate from the defaults, otherwise I will have more
trubles, than to stand out somehow the defaults.

That is why so interesting for me, that the traditional standard
positionings of windows should work even over raw Wayland w/o Xorg
services.

This is the derivation, why I think that it is proven that the
categorisation of "invalid" is wrong.

Since I am the first reporter, therefore I can not switch this "invalid"
back to the previous "confirmed", henc my only possibility now to change
it back to "new", SORRY for that, but the "invalid" is not true, and it
would behinder the handling of the problem if I leve it "invalid".

I changed only at "mutter", since the gnome-terminal looks forwarding
the positioning requests.

Hence I have choosed "opinion" for the terminal, since there is no
better choice for the situation, that the proper use of the gnome-
terminals are behindered, actually that was the reason why we descovered
the problem around Wayland and the default decison of Ubuntu, but the
gnome-terminal looks not responsible for it's insufficient behaviour in
the daily use.

** Changed in: mutter (Ubuntu)
       Status: Invalid => New

** Changed in: gnome-terminal (Ubuntu)
       Status: Invalid => Opinion

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Title:
  [wayland] gnome window manager ignores the --geometry location request
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