On 7/19/06, Ben Maurer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, the other thing that the gnome_program_init provides (as I > understand it) is the bug-buddy hooks. However, IMHO, this is more of a > distro thing. Ubuntu's solution > (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomatedProblemReports) seems to be better here, > as distro specific stuff can make great efforts to get symbols, etc.
Bzzzzt. Wrong. A couple things we know right now: * without what bug-buddy gives us currently, GNOME would be nigh-unusable. * distros are all crap at getting their bugs upstream, pretty much. (Some are slightly better than others, at various times.) So... stack traces going to distros instead of bugzilla ~= nigh-unusable GNOME. Now, many things could be done to improve this, of course- most concretely, I firmly believe the payoff on investment would be multiplied many times for the distros if they invested in a full-time bugmaster whose responsibility was coordination for getting bug information upstream and downstream. *If* they did that, or otherwise committed more thoroughly to getting their data upstream in a manner that was timely and useful, it might make sense for stack traces to go to the distros- as you point out it, it is easier for them to provide complete stack trace data. But in the current situation (distros don't have the tools to create the better stack traces, and don't have the tools to get bugs upstream, even if they did get better stack traces) this feature should be taken away over the dead bodies of the QA team. Luis _______________________________________________ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list