That is interesting to know a bit better how Evolution is organized. Thanks
Sankar.
Still, that makes it seem like a whole lot of unnecessary engineering. We
already *have* a shell: The GNOME desktop.
A bit off topic, but the miniature shell idea makes Evolution very confusing
to use. Program menus should not really change, but Evolution's are actually
completely different depending on what component is being used. To make
matters more confounding, many menu items change their position between
components.

On the topic of Rhythmbox, I do not have too many problems with its plugins
list (or at least the type of plugins it attracts). They tend to offer small
additions that could indeed be represented by single check boxes in the
program's Preferences. It would be good to see those moving straight into
the Preferences dialog, though, and the idea of them being plugins
abstracted to avoid the confusion of that term (though still present under
the hood). That they are plugins and not built in to the program's core
should be of no importance to the end user. Granted, there would have to be
a user interface miracle to fit that type of extensible interface in without
looking and feeling horrendous, but I'm hopeful. It could be an interesting
experiment!
Even just being an extra tab in Preferences (instead of a new dialog as it
is now) could do the job fine.

Bye,
-Dylan McCall

On Nov 17, 2007 7:26 AM, Bastien Nocera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> On Fri, 2007-11-16 at 11:38 +0100, Vincent Untz wrote:
> <snip>
> > Maybe 95% of the plugins of evo should not be displayed as plugins. They
> > should either be preferences in the standard preferences dialog, or they
> > should be enabled anyway.
>
> Totem and Rhythmbox have a number of "hidden" plugins that take care of
> core functionality, and are never shown in the UI, but allow splitting
> at the code level.
>
> > This is not only true for evo, rhythmbox has the same issue (although
> > there are less plugins there)
>
> Most of Rhythmbox' plugins should be preferences indeed, and it would be
> pretty trivial to have them be so. For example, the iPod, MTP removable
> media plugins, and the store plugins (Jamendo, and Magnatune) could be
> activated/disabled via a source selection that would allow you to
> disable some sources ("[ ] Show Play for Sure device in the sources").
>
> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=484435
>
> The cover art display in Rhythmbox could be a "show cover art" tickbox
> instead as well.
>
> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=497665
>
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