Hello, Here are news about Empathy. Biggest objections for inclusion were: - Empathy depends on libmissioncontrol-client which is LGPLv2.1-only: This situation won't change in time for GNOME 2.24, however this library will be deprecated probably during the 2.25 cycle in favor of a new spec and API in libtelepathy-glib which is LGPLv2.1+. - Empathy has no user manual: This is not true anymore[1], a manual is being written and is already included. It is far from complete but Milo Casagrande is working on it, help is needed to finish it in time I think. - libempathy and libempathy-gtk are GPL and not documented: We agreed that those libraries won't be proposed for the GNOME platform, never. They are proposed for experimental purpose in the DESKTOP. Useful bits of libempathy(-gtk) will be moved to libtelepathy-glib and (probably new) libtelepathy-gtk once they are API stable, documented and LGPL. Most parts potentially useful for telepathy-glib are already LGPL, the rest could be rewritten or licencing change will be asked if/when needed. libtelepathy-glib is fully documented[2]. - Passwords are stored in gconf: This is not true anymore, if libmissioncontrol-client is build with libgnome-keyring passwords are stored in the keyring and not in gconf anymore. If you upgrade MC from a previous version make sure to retype the password of every account to be sure they are removed from gconf and added to the keyring.
Notes: - libtelepathy is now deprecated an empathy do not depend on it anymore, replaced by libtelepathy-glib - libempathy and libempathy-gtk are only continence API to make easy to write applications, but everything can be done through DBus so it's totally licence-independent. [1] http://library.gnome.org/users/empathy/unstable/ [2] http://library.gnome.org/devel/telepathy-glib/unstable/ I hope this will help the adoption of Empathy for GNOME 2.24. Xavier Claessens. 2008/3/25 Xavier Claessens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > * Proposal: Include Empathy in GNOME 2.24 desktop. > > * Purpose: Empathy [1] consists of a rich set of reusable instant > messaging widgets, and a GNOME client using those widgets. It uses > Telepathy and Nokia's Mission Control, and reuses Gossip's UI. The main > goal is to permit desktop integration by providing libempathy and > libempathy-gtk libraries. libempathy-gtk is a set of powerful widgets > that can be embeded into any GNOME application. > > * Dependencies: > glib-2.0 >= 2.16.0 > gconf-2.0 >= 1.2.0 > libxml-2.0 > libtelepathy >= 0.3.2 > telepathy-glib >= 0.7.3 > libmissioncontrol >= 4.53 > gtk+-2.0 >= 2.12.0 > libglade-2.0 >= 2.0.0 > libebook-1.2 > libpanelapplet-2.0 >= 2.10.0 > > * Resource usage: Already using GNOME FTP, GNOME SVN and GNOME bugzilla. > > * Adoption: It is packaged at least for debian, ubuntu, mandriva, gentoo > and fedora. There is patches for Totem and nautilus-send-to [2] to make > use of libempathy(-gtk). There is a gtetrinet branch which uses > libempathy-gtk to play with contacts. There is also a python plugin for > epiphany using pyempathygtk [3]. Empathy is also used by Soylent [4]. > > * GNOME-ness: The community reports bugs in GNOME bugzilla and attach > patches, I review and commit in GNOME's SVN. GNOME translation teams are > already translating empathy. The UI is build with GNOME spirit in mind, > empathy inherit from Gossip's excellent UI. > > * Miscellaneous: > - Audio/Video support is still disabled by default but most problems > comes from other telepathy layers and are being worked. I'm pretty sure > it will be enabled soon. That means Empathy will be able to do > audio/video calls over SIP and Jabber, MSN will surely come at some > point too. Empathy is the only program capable of that AFAIK. > - libtelepathy is now deprecated, empathy is moving to telepathy-glib. > If we finish the transition we'll drop libtelepathy dependency. > - Empathy's part for file-transfer is almost done, but the telepathy > spec is likely to change soon. I hope it will be ready in time for 2.24. > - API is still not documented and likely to change, I know this sucks. > - There is no user documentation yet, I'll write an email to ask > documentation team to write one base on Gossip's doc. > - Empathy was proposed for GNOME 2.22 but got rejected because it was > not considered stable/mature enough. Lots is already fixed and I hope to > fix more during the 6 months coming. Help from the community is of > course welcome! > > Thanks, > Xavier Claessens. > > [1] http://live.gnome.org/Empathy > [2] http://www.barisione.org/blog.html/p=100 > [3] http://blog.senko.net/2007/07/19/emphatic-epiphany > [4] http://live.gnome.org/Soylent > >
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