Hello, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: > Iain * wrote: >> But I see that no-one else cares > > Or, you are not effectively communicating what you mean.
Actually, I understand Iain getting annoyed here. He makes a proposal which has its merits, and likely has counter-points that have merit. But it's very quickly descended into a completely unproductive flamewar because of some aggressive emailing. Thus guaranteeing the end of all useful discussion and an "Ignore thread" from, I'm sure, more than one person. I would like to see more pleasantness on GNOME's email lists in general, and in this case specifically. Let me summarise what's happening here: Iain wonders why there are 125 user-configurable system sounds in GNOME. He sees that most of the sounds are application-specific, not system-general, and suggests doing away with most of them, and letting applications handle application-specific sounds, and having the system configuration only be used for system-level sounds. This is a perfectly reasonable starting principle. And for a while there was lively, useful discussion. Lennart didn't respond to that argument by responding to the principle, and explaining the reasoning behind theming in the first place, he started arguing against the details of the proposal of Iain. In my opinion, what would have been more productive would have been to explain the principles behind sound theming and why those principles are useful. If I understand correctly, sound theming came about for the same reason as icon theming - to prevent every application doing its own thing and defining its own set of sound files and filenames, instead of maintaining consistency across the system. This is an admirable goal, and doesn't necessarily go counter to Iain's goal, which is to symplify configuration of system sounds and make them really useful to people who don't have the time to decide which of the 125 available sounds they want turned on and which they want turned off. Instead, Lennart's been talking about shipping as few, or as many, sound files as you like - this is a lower layer of abstraction that Iain has been looking at. This entire discussion has been symptomatic of a malaise in GNOME discussion lists, where obstreperousness has consistently put an end to interesting debate and turned it into flamewars. The project is better served by people arguing principles than attacking either the messenger or the grammar of the message. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org _______________________________________________ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list