On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 2:53 AM, Guillaume Desmottes <gdesm...@gnome.org> wrote: > Le mardi 29 mars 2011 à 10:09 +0200, Alexander Larsson a écrit : >> Our integration of empathy is pretty nice these days, you set up >> accounts in the global settings, you can control presence via the user >> menu, get nice notifications, etc. >> >> However, to a normal user, just logging in for the first time none of >> these things actually work. You won't get notifications from people even >> if you switch to "Available", and the control center applet will always >> keep showing your accounts as offline, with no obvious way to go online. > > The presence chooser could turn the account online very easily (just a > couple of lines to change) but that can be a bit tricky. For example, > user sets his desktops status to away because it doesn't want to be > annoyed with notifications; should we connect his IMs account with > 'away' as status?
As a new user of gnome-shell when I installed the Fedora 15 Alpha, my first thought was that "Available" and "Busy" referred to my IM status, and there was nothing that indicated to me that they had anything to do with the notification system. I only made that connection from a stray reference on either this list or the gnome-shell mailing list. My guess is that a lot of users will make the same connection and be confused when those settings don't seem to do anything to their IM status (even assuming they knew that they had to start empathy to begin with). > > Basically, mapping desktop status with IM status can be tricky. IIRC > Ubuntu used to automatically connect accounts when changing the presence > using their presence indicator and stopped doing so because loads of > users were wondering why their IM accounts were suddenly online. I think a bigger issue with the ubuntu Me Menu is that in the initial state after login, the IM status menu items are desensitized, and empathy (just as unintuitively as in Alexander's use case) needs to be started from the messaging menu, which is two items away on the notification menu bar. In both cases, the proper behavior should not necessarily address the IM status at login, but actually making the menu items useful in adjusting that status. Even though I hardly ever use IM, I do try to remember to have it on when I am working from home, and I occasionally (maybe 3-4 times a month) chat with my wife when I am at the office and she's on the computer at home. That said, the task of muting and unmuting notifications seems to be a rather lower priority than setting online status, and I don't think that the current menu items communicate their purpose particularly well. Michael Knepher _______________________________________________ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list