On Wed, 2011-10-19 at 01:09 +0200, Mark wrote: > I really want to drop in here. > I on purposely say "gnome" instead of "you" to avoid giving the > impression that i attack anyone.
Honestly, given your hostile tone, it instead comes off as if you're attacking everybody. I'm going to try to assume you're frustrated, and that you don't mean to offend. > Some facts. > 1. Gnome wants feedback but any feedback gathered online is "non > representative". It has to be gathered from a "non biased" site like > cnn.com -_- guess the person who said that lives in a dream world or > under a stone My objections to the survey are well-documented on this list. I clearly stated multiple times that an open-invite internet survey of any kind cannot control its sampling or control for selection bias in any way. The person who mentioned CNN didn't say that a survey on cnn.com would be scientific. He said *all* web surveys self-select, and that phoronix self-selects moreso. This is simply a product of who reads the sites, and who you want to reach. Most of the people who create GNOME are professional developers, or are working towards becoming professionals. Perhaps surveys ought to be run by professional statisticians, or quantitative social science professionals. And among the many reasons why this survey is clearly biased and poorly run, let's not forget that cherry-picking negative (and overtly hostile) comments before the data is even published is about the least professional thing I've ever seen in a survey. > 2. Gnome gets feedback on _gnome's_own_list_of_questions_ but it's > "non representative" ... The majority of GNOME developers did not participate in creating these questions. Of those that did, most were not supportive of the survey as deployed. To characterize it as "GNOME's own list of questions" is extremely disingenuous. > 3. It's "useless" > 4. Feedback should be looked for just by asking people, not on > internet. > Really, is gnome KIDDING me? How unrealistic can gnome be! And if > phoronix isn't a site for user feedback then what is? For who is Gnome > even targeted? I'm sure if you ask a dozen different GNOME developers, you'll get some different answers. But mostly, I think GNOME targets people who don't want to think about what terms like "operating system", "desktop environment", or "distribution" mean. Many technology enthusiasts enjoy GNOME. In fact, those of us who create GNOME are technology enthusiasts. But we set the bar higher than our own tolerance for technology pain. -- Shaun _______________________________________________ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list