Hi,

> I think we are missing the important bit here.
> >
> > Tracking your head with a webcam to drive a mouse results in a bad
> > experience. It doesn't work even remotely well.
>
> Some users already find this feature/application really useful.
>
> > Someone will, in the future, figure out how to do this properly and
> > then it won't be called an accessibility feature but something
> > everyone will want to use.
>
> It would be good to have it for general use for the feature. But for the
> moment it is just a specific accessibility tool.
>

I think that this raises an important point about inclusion of accessibility
features: they are often very innovative, and they enhance the experiences
of average users. For example, the on-screen keyboard can be adapted  for
use on  touch-screen devices (at least this is my understanding from
discussions I had with Nohemi Fernandez while we were in Montreal) - as long
as someone extends the code :)

Since the trends right now are moving away from mouse use, it might be
helpful/interesting to ask ourselves whether or how cameras can be used to
replace them. Are there situations in which a camera would be more useful
than a touch screen or track pad? Certainly it can be for certain users with
disabilities, but we might want to explore other use cases, as well.

>
>
>
> > I -think- that for this to work properly we'd need a bunch of things:
> > first, we need to track not only head movement but also your eyes and
> > several facial muscles so that we can have accurate tracking and hints
> > about your
>
> AFAIK, eViacam developers plans to add support for more facial gestures
> in the future.
>
> > intentions. Well, this requires cameras with resolutions much higher
> > than VGA, which is the current standard for these. Then, someone needs
> > to figure out how to track all these elements real-time with little
> > cpu usage. As it is, we
>
> With higher resolution cameras the behaviour would be better. But
> please, read again the feature proposal name "Alternative input based
> system based on *low-cost* webcam".
>
> About performance, it is something that was always one of the priorities
> for eViacam developers, and the reason that the configuration wizard
> allows you to tweak so many parameters.
>
> > can't even maintain a Mexican hat over ones head in Cheese without it
> > lagging 3 seconds behind. And finally for this to work we'de need
> > pretty good AI to be able to understand what you really want so that
> > you don't end up sending a draft-mail just because you glanced at that
> > gorgeous girl that just passed in front of you.
>
> See my previous comment about performance.
>

I  also think that performance and facial gesture support will most likely
improve faster if this is included and available to more users and
developers.

Regards,

Meg Ford

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