On 26 April 2012 10:10, Jasper St. Pierre <jstpie...@mecheye.net> wrote: > On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 10:04 AM, Jeremy Bicha <jbi...@ubuntu.com> wrote: >> On 26 April 2012 09:35, Allan Day <allanp...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Bastien Nocera <had...@hadess.net> wrote: >>>> On Thu, 2012-04-26 at 13:55 +0100, Allan Day wrote: >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> Last release we introduced the ability for applications to define a >>>>> GMenu (or 'application menu'). This means that applications now have a >>>>> place to locate global application (as opposed to per window) menu >>>>> items. Some applications have already started to use a GMenu, and >>>>> while this is great, it has also introduced some inconsistency (since >>>>> some app menus have several items in them and some just have Quit). >>>>> >>>>> It would be great if we could improve on the current situation and >>>>> ensure that all our applications present an appropriate set of items >>>>> in their GMenu. I've started a GNOME Goal page [1] which we can use to >>>>> coordinate this work, if people think it's a good idea. >>>> >>>> I'm not sure how good an idea this is given that the use of the app menu >>>> means that the application itself will require redesign. It would only >>>> be really useful for smaller applications with a very limited number of >>>> menu items, without a redesign. >>>> >>> >>> If an app has a complex menu bar, I'm recommending that it just moves >>> a small number of items to the app menu (eg. new window, preferences, >>> help, about, quit). That way we can ensure at least some consistency >>> and prevent those "oh, there's nothing there" moments. >> >> I don't know if Unity supports having both regular menus and a Gmenu >> at the same time. Also, it's not consistent with the HIG (or much of >> anything) to have Preferences be moved from the Edit menu. Maybe >> Preferences could be *copied* to the app menu but that's not >> necessarily a good idea either. > > As I understood it, app menus were for all app-global things. If > Preferences is app-global, > it should be moved into the app menu.
I believe we were talking about keeping File/Edit/View while adding a GMenu. If so, the UI would be quite confusing if some things were taken out of the normal File/Edit/View menus. If all we're talking about is how Epiphany 3.4 works, then that's fine but that's not how I read what was written. > And I thought that desrt and Colin worked very hard to have this work > with Ubuntu. I remember > Colin talking about how hard this was because of integration between > GNOME 2, GNOME 3 > and Unity. Unity supports GMenus as a replacement for the traditional File/Edit/View menus, but I don't think it works as an addition at this time. No app does that yet anyway. On 26 April 2012 10:14, Bastien Nocera <had...@hadess.net> wrote: > If it doesn't, there's fallback code in GTK+. But you should really > point that out to Unity developers. On the GNOME lists, we tend to focus > on GNOME itself. Of course, GNOME decisions affect Ubuntu & Unity. I'm interested in GNOME (Shell), GNOME Fallback (not for me personally but I help to maintain it for Ubuntu users that want it), and Unity. Jeremy _______________________________________________ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list