On Wed, 2020-04-29 at 15:59 -0400, Tres Finocchiaro via desktop-devel- list wrote: > I'm asking how to detect a Gtk desktop. An answer that says "always' > isn't really correct. The use-cases for this -- as indicated by the > Debian search results in the commit that removed this flag -- were in > the hundreds.
Which does not prove anything. Much of those hits will date back to
code that was written way over ten years ago. When GTK might have not
been as good and–more importantly–other desktops may not have
integrated as well with GTK.
So, yes, people have checked that in the past and it probably was a
deliberate choice back then. For various reasons, I would expect that
"Metal" would have generally been considered better overall. And GTK
probably ended up looking really bad in some cases because 1) the
default theme used to be ugly and 2) other desktops did not integrate
as well.
None of these reasons are true these days. GTK integration is good
across various desktops. "Metal" is probably less modern look wise than
a default ("unthemed") GTK is.
I agree with Ray. With the selection you have, just always choose GTK
on Linux. I truly expect it is the best choice on all desktops a user
might choose on Linux.
> The ability to detect a Gtk-based desktop seems like a perfectly
> valid question.
You are looking for magic that simply does not exist. Just always
GTKLookAndFeel and you will most likely have the best results across
the board.
Benjamin
> On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 3:47 PM Ray Strode <halfl...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > > So, with the removal of this GNOME_DESKTOP_SESSION_ID variable,
> > how should OpenJDK -- moving forward -- detect a Gtk-based desktop?
> >
> > So as I understand it, the choices for look and feel are:
> >
> > WindowsLookAndFeel, GTKLookAndFeel, AquaLookAndFeel,
> > MotifLookAndFeel, and MetalLookAndFeel
> >
> > Of those choices, GTKLookAndFeel is the best answer for any linux
> > desktop I think. KDE configures gtk to look nice on KDE, and the
> > rest
> > of the
> > desktops use GTK or at least look good with GTK. Defaulting to
> > Metal
> > means looking bad on almost every desktop.
> >
> > Or can you think of a common desktop choice where GTK look and feel
> > isn't the best option of the available ones?
> >
> > I think the logic should just be "if running linux, pick gtk". You
> > shouldn't need to check any environment variables, imo.
> >
> > --Ray
>
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