Brian Nitz wrote:
> Calum Benson wrote:
>> On 13 Aug 2008, at 09:49, Jedy Wang wrote:
>>
>>   
>>> Hi Calum,
>>>
>>> I notice that the title for the Desklets entry of the Accessories menu
>>> is different from 2008.05 and GNOME community but is not marked. I  
>>> just
>>> want to make sure if the title *is* Desklets but not gDesklets.
>>>     
>>
>> I was originally proposing "Desklets", so it should have been  
>> marked... the HIG recommends against using names of the form "GNOME  
>> Something" or "gSomething" on the menus.
>>   
> Speaking of Desklets, my first impression was that the raised circles 
> on the background image almost look clickable and since the sweep of 
> the "comet tail"draws the user's eye to that corner, I'll bet those 
> circles will be clicked by at least a few opensolaris newcomers. 
>
> I've never liked the two panel design since, especially on popular 
> wide screen laptops, display real estate is already limited in this 
> dimension.  But then if you're going to have two panels, the 
> separation of function does make some sense.
>
> Do we have any data on how many percent of users use 4 or more 
> workspaces?   (especially those migrating from competing OSs which 
> only have 1 workspace)
>
> Would compiz handle a triangle/pyramid workspace surface instead of a 
> cube so we can have 3 workspaces and leave a bit more room for the 
> window switcher applet?
>
> I wonder if it would make sense to put the window selector widget just 
> to the left of the "show desktop" icon?  It looks like there is a bit 
> of room and window selector has a small icon.
>> However, from the CD Space Analysis discussion that's currently  
>> happening on indiana-discuss, it sounds like we might be dropping  
>> gdesklets from the LiveCD anyway.  So rather than worry about such a  
>> minor change for something that might be disappearing into a  
>> repository, I'll just change it back to "gDesklets" in the spec.
>>
>> Cheeri,
>> Calum.
>>
>>
>>   
>>> On Fri, 2008-08-08 at 17:41 +0100, Calum Benson wrote:
>>>     
>>>> Since we didn't quite get around to implementing the UI spec for
>>>> 2008.05, we've recently been tweaking it a bit for 2008.11 (and have
>>>> actually assigned people to make it happen this time...)
>>>>
>>>> <http://opensolaris.org/os/community/desktop/uispecs/indiana-uispec/>
>>>>
>>>> Comments welcome... it hasn't really changed too much since what we'd
>>>> planned for 2008.05, bar a bit more panel reshuffling (to try and
>>>> achieve a functional split of "actions and status" on top and  
>>>> "windows
>>>> and workspaces" on the bottom), and some minor changes to accommodate
>>>> upstream changes in GNOME 2.24.
>>>>
>>>> Cheeri,
>>>> Calum.
>>>>
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That "competing" operating system would only be Windows now, since Mac 
OS X Leopard has spaces and most UNIX and UNIX-like systems have had 
virtual workspaces for a decade, such as CDE, KDE, and GNOME.

I suspect if the target was only for Windows users or Mac OS X Tiger 
(Less likely since most would find Solaris to be inferior and would just 
upgrade) then one workspace would be fine.  Two would probably be more 
resonable if there was easily attainable documentation on what IS a 
workspace and what can you do with it presented to the user.

Desklets are something Yahoo! Widgets, Windows Vista (Gadgets) and Mac 
OS X (Dasboard Widgets) users would like, but the rest of the audience 
really doesn't care about them and I suspect that out of the above 
subset, even combined it probably doesn't warrant making such things 
enabled by default.

I don't know about the pyramid workspace surface, it's probably more 
than possible but you'd want to ask the compiz developers.

As for the Compiz cube in general, the only target for it would be Linux 
users since there's nothing comparable, and most wouldn't understand the 
hotkeys and easy but extra setup process in tweaking it to suit.  The 
problem with Compiz in general is the plugins in general have an 
overzealous amount of options presented to the user, many which I (A 
technical person) still find redundant or unnecessary to be outright 
placed in plain view.  The plugins I feel should have emphasis placed on 
them (ie: on by default) are:

Cube (If there was a very small bundled or internet-based video 
tutorial, possibly a comparison/migration from Vista's Aero switcher and 
Spaces)
Window Previews (Like Vista's taskbar preview)
Expo (I like this but the default of activation through the right corner 
is annoying)
Window snapping (Because many like how metacity does this with windows 
as it helps optimize pixel usage)
Maybe others... give reasoning if you find any other to be reasonably 
easy to use and suitable by default for migrating users.

James

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