(In reply to comment #69) … > > Regarding the voting, is there generic popular Linux-oriented site in > > France? Like slashdot.org or smth... > > There is a popular Linux-oriented site in France (linuxfr.org) and the > final ajustments of this layout were done after discussion on this site. > > I realise there is a vocal minority that does not like some of those choices
A site like linuxfr.org may well be a vocal minority in itself. Nothing proves that linuxfr.org is representative of ordinary users. And even on linuxfr.org I have seen posts saying "where is my CRTL-R gone?" or "my keyboard is broken since some new version of Ubuntu". In a way, suppressing one of the customary CTRL keys is intrinsically a minority point of view. [Furthermore, the French layout for the Belgian keyboard depends on the French layout for the French keyboard. I do not see why a discussion on linuxfr.org should decide that Belgians have no use of right CTRL.] > but > 1. the other alternatives used in the ancestors of this layout generated a > lot more hate mail I doubt having a right CTRL key ever generated hate mail. That hate mail was about other questions. > 2. because I knew there was no choice everyone would like spacebar layout is > modular (and I'm the person who modularized it as part of the creation of > this layout). People can choose the previous behaviour if they want and a > few other possibilities were added as part of the modularization We are not here discussing space bar, but right CTRL. Is right CTRL modular? Is there an option easily accessible to the ordinary user to restore right CTRL? > 3. so far no one proposed any better option appart from removing symbols > which are necessary to write proper French (arguably proper French is not > the same as C code). It's a lot easier to clamor for removal of the bits you > do not use than to try to design a general-purpose solution without cutting > corners The clamor is not against proper French of for removal of anything. Furthermore, how could an ordinary user "try to design a solution"? The user wants a common PC keyboard with CTRL keys, without having to write the code himself. The clamor is: do what you can to allow writing proper French —and thank you for your trying to do it— but leave the right CTRL. ------- If no agreement can be reached, would it be possible to have the old layout accessible, even under another name? I do not know how many variants are allowed, by design, or by freedesktop conventions. Of course a new variant would be useless if it didn’t appear in the choices offered to an ordinary user by the most popular GNU Linux distributions. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to rhythmbox in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/221112 Title: Can't use space bar in search bar when using french alternative keyboard Status in libgnomekbd: Confirmed Status in Listen, a Music player and management: Confirmed Status in Quod Libet is a GTK+-based audio player written in Python.: Unknown Status in The Rhythmbox Music Management Application: Confirmed Status in SciTE - A free source code editor for Win32 and X: New Status in central project for keyboard configuration: Confirmed Status in “quodlibet” package in Ubuntu: Invalid Status in “rhythmbox” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “xkeyboard-config” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “xkeyboard-config” source package in Precise: Triaged Bug description: [Impact] In the fr(oss) keymap, both space and Ctrl + space return the same XLookupString, which prevents space from being used in some applications. This had been fixed in lucid and maverick, but the patch appears to have been misplaced during the (rather major) update from 1.8 to 2.1, thus the reports of it regressing in comments #135 and #141, as well as dupe bug #938671. [Development Fix] Patch 128_fix_oss_ctrl_space_accelerator.patch fixed this problem in lucid and maverick, but was dropped in natty when we updated to upstream xkeyboard-config 2.1. However, the patch was also sent upstream and accepted there. So for quantal a cherrypick of that commit was backported. [Stable Fix] Since currently quantal is shipping the same xkeyboard-config version as precise, we can carry the same patch there as well. [Test Case] 1. Set keyboard to fr(oss). (Note due to unrelated bug, you need to do this in your /etc/defaults/keyboard config file.) 2. Start rhythmbox 3. Do a song search 4. Type in a search term that includes a space character Broken Behavior: Space triggers the play/pause function in rhythmbox Fixed Behavior: A space character is inserted [Regression Potential] The patch is one we carried in lucid and maverick (when rhythmbox was the default music player IIRC), and has been upstream for a while. So I think it is a safe change. Actually, I'm surprised there have not been more complaints about it lately. But during the interim we'd switched to banshee so perhaps users didn't notice it. [Original Report] I tried to search for "The Do" in the search bar, but the space bar didn't write a space. Instead, it played the currently selected song (space is the shortcut for playing/pausing the song). I've just installed the last Hardy release candidate. ProblemType: Bug Architecture: i386 Date: Wed Apr 23 19:30:12 2008 DistroRelease: Ubuntu 8.04 ExecutablePath: /usr/bin/rhythmbox NonfreeKernelModules: nvidia Package: rhythmbox 0.11.5-0ubuntu6 PackageArchitecture: i386 ProcEnviron: PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8 SHELL=/bin/bash SourcePackage: rhythmbox Uname: Linux 2.6.24-16-generic i686 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/libgnomekbd/+bug/221112/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
