"Although dragging could be done by relative movements. Setting an absolute position does appear to be impossible in Wayland."
If it was really impossibble, then how the Gnome shell or any window manager can position *itself*? We see, that the diverse components of the diverse window managers does not float around in an uncontrolled way, but *somehow* they are able to tell to Wayland where to position that components. The gnome-terminal should be able to do the same, either directly ask Wayland, or indirectly ask the window manager, in return of the --geometry argument. Hence it is confirmed, that the problem in question is 1: either a severe bug of the windows manager itself 2: or a severe bug of the applications receiving the --geometry arguments. I am extremly upset of keeping this bug report on the level of "opinion". There are so uncomfortable problems around the terminal windowing since 21.04, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1925823 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1928317 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1916890 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1888098 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1288655 or the too thick capture bar of a terminal wastes the vertical space that I seriousely consieder to change to other distro. My work depends heavily on the comfort of character terminals I became used to in the late 80's, and since 21.04 the level of comfort reached a treshold of pain. And now, I can not achieve that this serious bug is taken seriously. This bug crosses the basics of the windowing standars hold already for decades. Perhaps one of the iconic feature of a windowing system is that an application can position the other windows. This was possibble already in the mid 80's! I simply do not understand what is going here around the Wayland, while on the other hand it seems to be a very promising progress in the technology of the windowing system. But why it is a so big issue to position a window by an other application? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to mutter in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1925732 Title: [wayland] gnome window manager ignores the --geometry location request of the gnome-terminal Status in gnome-terminal package in Ubuntu: Opinion Status in mutter package in Ubuntu: Opinion Status in gnome-terminal package in Fedora: Invalid Bug description: The example "gnome-terminal --geometry=80x24+200+200" from the man page of gnome-terminal, does not work: while the 80x24 part of the geometry request is executed, the location +200+200 is overridden by the automatic positioning of new windows by the "Gnome Shell". "--geometry=GEOMETRY Set the window size as COLSxROWS+X+Y. For example, 80x24 or 80x24+200+200." The "+X+Y" part is ignored since I upgraded from 20.10 to 21.04 yesterday, just 4 hours after the official release. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-terminal/+bug/1925732/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp