On Mon, 2007-08-27 at 09:04 +0200, Klaus Knopper wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 26, 2007 at 11:05:50PM -0700, John Cherry wrote:
> > Those of us at the Linux Foundation are working to reject Microsoft's
> > bid to win ISO ratification for their DIS 29500 (OOXML) specification
> > for office document file formats. The world already has an ISO standard
> > for this problem and it's ODF or ISO 26300. The JTC1 5 month ballot
> > period closes September 2nd.
> 
> I'm sorry, "The world already has an ISO standard or this problem and
> it's ODF"  is not a good argument in my opinion. It sounds much like
> "The world already has one operating system, and it is Windows".
> Usually, we are all for diversity and open standards, aren't we? For
> rejecting an application for standardization, there should be just
> technical and verifyable formal reasons:
> 
> - The proposed standard must be implementable by everyone. Insufficient
>   or vendor-specific documentation cannot be implemented by
>   anyone in full.
> 
> - The proposed standard must be architecture- and operating-system
>   independent.
> 
> - The proposed standard must not be obfuscated.
> 
> - All components and interfaces must be openly disclosed and
>   documented in full, and not given as a "container" for proprietary
>   content.
> 
> - The proposed standard must not contain patented/proprietary components.
> 
> - Implementing the standard must be royalty-free.
> 
>   ...
> 
> Have you read the OOXML documentation in order to make the above
> statements, which would be very valid reasons for a rejection?
> 
> > With September 2nd looming, the Linux Foundation is going to come out
> > with a "formal" statement on Tuesday.  I realize that there have been
> > document format wars raging in the blogs and the press for months, but I
> > thought it would be a nice touch to the LF position statement if we
> > could augment the statement with comments from the community of desktop
> > architects (you guys).
> > 
> > I am constructing a "quotes page" for specific comments from the desktop
> > architects.  I will either pick these quotes up from the list here or
> > you can send them to me directly.  If you post a short position
> > statement of your own, there is a possibility that we will use it in the
> > LF position statement as well, so please don't send anything to me that
> > you don't want to have quoted.  All quotes on the "quotes page" must be
> > attributed to somebody (nothing anonymous).
> 
> You can quote the "-" indented statements from me above. But I would
> really be happy if we all know what we are talking about. Just disliking
> anything from a proprietary vendor is insufficient for a serious
> statement.

Thanks for the quote Klaus.  I agree that a simple argument about
disliking anything from a proprietary vendor is not a reasonable grounds
for a statement.  Thanks for the thoughtful response.

John

> 
> With kind regards
> -Klaus Knopper

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