Just a few notes on whom to include here...

John Gruen is UX on FxA (Firefox Accounts).

Tauni Oxborrow and Erin Lancaster manage Identity, FxA, and Where's My Fox work.

They should all be kept in the loop on this.

S.

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Subject: Re: Proposal: PasswordManager on FxOS

Hey!

Might be.

AFAIK FxOS Account/Person is just one of the ways to identify the user,
but we could not force every web page uses this service right? There's still 
tons of ways of authentication on the internet.

For sure it does help and comfort the life of the user, so thanks for anyone 
working on FxOS Account!

-Alive
 
Natalia Martinez-Winter <nata...@mozilla.com> 於 2013/12/5 下午4:35 寫道:

> Hi,
> 
> I don't know much about those services but I thought we wanted to integrate 
> Firefox Persona and Accounts in Firefox OS. Do those services provide the 
> equivalent "password manager" service in the end ? (in the cloud) 
> 
> latest status I found is here : 
> https://wiki.mozilla.org/Identity/Department_Status/2013-11-22
> 
> 
> Natalia Martinez-Winter
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alive" <al...@mozilla.com>
> To: "dev-webapi" <dev-web...@lists.mozilla.org>, dev-b2g@lists.mozilla.org, 
> "dev-gaia" <dev-g...@lists.mozilla.org>
> Cc: "Paul Theriault" <ptheria...@mozilla.com>
> Sent: Thursday, 5 December, 2013 4:20:24 PM
> Subject: Proposal: PasswordManager on FxOS
> 
> Hi folks,
> 
> I'd like to have a password manager inside our operating system to store and 
> manage passwords you'd typed in the FxOS.
> 
> This is an old item in my mind beyond FxOS v1.0 when I sadly found our phone 
> crashed when we visited mozilla phonebook.
> (It had been fixed long time ago so we support HTTP authentication well now.)
> 
> Again, think about this case:
> EVERY time you visit https://phonebook.mozilla.org/, you need to retype the 
> password :)
> Other than the case, there're tons of pages on the web having a password 
> field.
> 
> Today I discussed with Paul, from security team, and be glad to know he also 
> loves this idea.
> And what's not good is, it sounds like we are still far away from the 
> password manager.
> 
> 1A. We need a stronger password for lock code. It'd be used for the key for 
> all your passwords. (from Paul)
> 1B. We need to change the way storing lock code. No settings.
> 2. We need some way to encrypt.
> 3A. We need to store the password somewhere safely.
> 3B. We need API to store the password. This API shall be only used by gaia 
> system app IMHO?
> 
> Item (1A) Is a pure gaia work but some of my concern now are:
> * Need UX (Hello UX ww!)
> * We'd love to have a standalone lockscreen app,
>  and I wonder a standalone app would break the security, though this is not 
> in our case.
> Item (2) and (3) I'm afraid I need gecko-er's chime in here.
> 
> The password storing on desktop browser is noticed by the world due to Chrome 
> browser just put the plain password and you could easily see it in the 
> setting.
> IMO we won't want the plain password….?, and "encrypt" in gecko now is in a 
> little ambiguous state: Which way and how to do?
> I'm still very young to this area so I don't have exact idea what we shall do 
> ;)
> 
> I believe this post is just a small step to reach what we finally want to 
> have,
> so I am appreciated if anyone stands up to push this or states any of your 
> opinion!
> 
> Thanks for reading :)
> Alive
> --
> Alive C. Kuo, Front-end Engineer, FirefoxOS, MoCo. Taiwan, Taipei office.
> al...@mozilla.com
> 
> 
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