On Mon, Jan 15, 2024 at 10:24 AM Colin Percival <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 1/15/24 08:36, Mike Karels wrote: > > On 15 Jan 2024, at 9:37, Warner Losh wrote: > >> One question here... > >> > >> Do we need to include all the debugging stuff in /usr/lib/debug? i'ts > over > >> 1GB out of 5GB and seems like a poor fit > >> for this form factor. We can easily provide it as a package instead.... > >> > >> I know the inevitable march of largeness must progress, but we should > ask > >> ourselves is this really a good use of that 1GB? > > > > Good question. On riscv, /usr/lib/debug is 2.5 GB. (arm64 is 2.1 GB.) > > I'm also not sure what it would take to leave it off, although I would > guess > > that a tweak to installworld could do it if we need debug for other > targets. > > I think the package already exists. Of course, these images usually get > > expanded to a much larger size on the first boot, so maybe the space > doesn't > > matter as much. > > > > Ideally, we'd keep the kernel debug, but that would probably be more > work. > > > > It would probably make the most sense to the same thing for other > architectures, > > although arm64 at least has headroom. The scripts to build the image > files are > > shared, but there is a config file per image. > > > > Opinions, anyone? We could ask on freebsd-riscv and maybe other lists > too. > > My inclination is to say that for now the "standard" FreeBSD images should > include all the bits which 'make installkernel installworld' provides. (I > have been considering shipping no-debug-files EC2 AMIs as an additional > option, though, since people pay per GB for storage there.) > Yea, half the space is basically worthless. Few people get core dumps of userland programs, and the SD card doesn't ship with a swap area to take a kernel dump. > When we move to pkgbase it will become dramatically easier for users to > install debug files if/when needed, and at that point I think it would make > sense to ship without them by default. > Yea, if they aren't easily available, it is harder. And snapshots can be hard to get back. So if you need it, you really need it to be bundled. Warner
