On Thursday, October 22, 2015 at 7:13:21 AM UTC-4, Michael Henretty wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 7:01 PM, Andrew Sutherland <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> Can you clarify what you mean by "bring back the browser chrome"?
> 
> 
> 
> I'm talking about the second case you mentioned, opening Firefox OS "apps." 
> By default there is no way to access the browser navigation chrome (beyond 
> using the search bar). Having that as default behavior (and indeed the 
> behavior in all Gaia apps) clearly shows our intent that FxOS "apps" should 
> implement their own navigation. Is this the right approach? Certainly we need 
> to give developers choice, but for instance not having the back button on 
> FxOS "apps" like Facebook can make the navigation experience unnecessarily 
> frustrating. Facebook works much better as a pin IMO :)
> 
> I don't think we want the web #2 [expanding/collapsing chrome on scroll] 
> case.  (I'm not sure the web even wants
>  it; Fennec does the scrollgrab thing because it can't insert a 
> rocketbar-like capsule in the status bar that responds to tapping.)
> 
> 
> Fennec, mobile chrome, and mobile safari all expand/collapse chrome on 
> scrolling in some way. I agree it can be a little annoying, but the extra 
> screen real estate is also extremely useful. In any case, I don't think 
> scrollgrab is confusing to users since it has become somewhat of a standard. 
> But it's definitely useful to discuss alternative approaches.
> 
> 
> More generally though, I agree that having URL-based navigation and making 
> single-paged apps are two separate topics. Sorry if I conflated the two. 
> Let's drop the single-page app part since it's orthogonal to this discussion.
> 
> It seems like we all agree we want URL based navigation. It also seems the we 
> *mostly* agree that the android back button is a tad unpredictable and we 
> shouldn't fully emulate them.  So the question remains here about 
> disposition, and best practices we encourage with Gaia apps. Developer choice 
> aside (which we should obviously keep), should Gaia apps be leveraging 
> browser chrome (back, forward, refresh, pin, share, etc)?

Cant we use the edge swipe functionality to trigger backbutton event?
I think that would be a better option than actually adding a visible back 
button at the bottom. I love firefox OS because of its simplicity and its home 
button. A single button at the bottom of the screen makes it look beautiful, so 
adding an extra back button is something that would definitely not look good.
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