On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 7:47 AM, Karl Dubost <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Wilson,
>
> Le 2 déc. 2015 à 19:09, Wilson Page <[email protected]> a écrit :
> > I think we should be seriously considering exploring UA ambiguity (and
> all that that comes with), at least on Firefox OS, if we are to provide the
> best web experience on mobile.
>
> I think I already explained in the past. ^_^
> We already have **UA override**.
> Firefox OS:
> https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/file/tip/b2g/app/ua-update.json.in
> Firefox Android:
> https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/file/tip/mobile/android/app/ua-update.json.in
>
>
> UA overriding doesn't solve it. Sometimes it often creates even a worse
> experience for a user with a total broken experience. For example, making
> the UA of Firefox OS being Chrome and you get a totally unusable Web site,
> because Google expects it to be Chrome feature sets and rendering engine.
> See for example
> https://bug914252.bmoattachments.org/attachment.cgi?id=8689920
> in the bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=914252
>

​Understood. I know there is a lot more work than just changing the UA :)​


> That said
> we (Web Compat) are working for months already with Engineering on how to
> remove the most important issues (implementing non-standards API, Aliasing
> some webkit properties, etc). **Once** these are in place, we will have a
> lot more flexibility on playing with the UA. You can follow
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1170774 to see our progress.
>

​This is awesome, I has no idea this was going on! :)​

Note that I'm happy to discuss anything about Google properties. I'm the
> Moz point of contact for all Web compat issues with Google. The discussion
> with Google is along two axis:
>
> 1. send a specific version to a specific UA string
>

​What exactly would we request in this area?​


> 2. fix the CSS/JS they send.
>
> The 1. is not very hard for them. The 2. has mostly been a no-no on many
> issues.
> But the 1. can't happen if the version we receive is worse than the
> version we were receiving initially.
>
>
> PS: Wilson, Let's meet in Orlando next week. Let's have a coffee or drink.
> And I will share and show you what our team is doing and the extent of the
> issues.
>

​Let's do it. When is a good time? How do I find you :)


>
> --
> Karl Dubost, Mozilla
> http://www.la-grange.net/karl/moz
>
>
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