Most of the use-cases you outline seem to suggest 'privacy' is the main
'feature'. I think we should be careful running with this as the
**primary** user value proposition. As Ari said: *'users want candy, not
vegetables'*.

1. What 'candy' can we offer them that they cannot already get through
existing channels?
2. Can the underlying transports align with what FlyWeb is trying to do?

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IMO Mozilla could flourish in this space; we have two main tasks:

1. Create a safe, scalable, interoperable developer platform that applies
lessons learnt from the web (giving us a head start).
2. Launch a shiny product that introduces the platform to consumers.

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Although, if the platform is **that** good, third-parties will want to
build on it and Mozilla might not have to launch any user-facing products :)

Wilson

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On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 8:37 AM, David Rajchenbach-Teller <
[email protected]> wrote:

> I'm not clear on the specifics yet, but I generally like this direction.
>
> Do I understand correctly that your proposal would be a combination of a
> local cloud, a private cloud, interaction with third-party clouds, and
> stuff that tracks which third-party clouds have your data?
>
> Cheers,
>  David
>
> On 16/12/15 08:42, Fabrice Desré wrote:
> > Indeed, let me try to explain better what this is about...
> >
> > A web browser is also called a User Agent because we rely on it to
> > access documents and code from remote, untrusted sources. It's great
> > that you can trust your browser that nothing bad will happen when you
> > load a page that includes a random <script src=...> element. However,
> > your browser doesn't give you much control on the data that you produce
> > online. One could even argue that it facilitated the emergence of
> > massive silos of data that make little case of user control.
> > So, I believe that beyond the browser, regaining control of our online
> > activity calls for a new kind of User Agent. It will need to provide
> > guarantees that your data and the code processing it are loosely coupled
> > and under your control. It will also need to be designed so that we can
> > access our data from anywhere, and allow 3rd party to write apps just
> > like any other website (no store, no gatekeeper of any kind).
> >
> > Some use cases:
> > - I want to store the data from my activity tracker, either on my local
> > network or on a remote server I control. However, I'm fine with using
> > 3rd party apps to get visualization & analysis of my data. That means
> > pulling their code to run it on my data, instead of pushing my data to
> > them. Also, that means getting the code to run in a sandbox that doesn't
> > leak back to the 3rd party.
> > - Once in a while, I create photo collages to print them. I'd like to
> > use a service that does just that, but will not get access to the raw
> > data of my pictures. Knowing which camera I use, the exact date,
> > location etc. which is in the exif data is none of their business.
> > - If I had a "smart" thermostat, I would like all the historical data to
> > be stored in my database. And I want to be able to run algorithms on
> > that data from different providers, to select the best one for instance.
> >
> > The FoxBox is the piece that would sit in your home network, gathering
> > data from sensors and sending them commands, along with managing the
> > storage part. It may also be able to display content on an attached
> > device, stream sound to a remote speaker, etc.
> > We'll build a way to access your data from 3rd party sites, both from
> > the local network or outside of it. We'll let "background" processes
> > process the data.
> >
> > There are still many pieces to fully figure out, and many choices to
> > make. Comments and suggestions are welcome!
> >
> >
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