Leo, what you describe aligns very well with my own vision for how Firefox
OS might expand into IoT and other connected devices. The router is the
real centre of the connected home and is ripe for innovation, also an HDMI
stick to bring the TV experience to any HD TV could really lower the
barrier of entry for participation.

In fact before the work week in Orlando I put together four example product
concepts
<https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1tz2GduDpdUmE4er9_LaKXmmsGwgEKBxA0q-lCcS8zYo/edit?usp=sharing>
very much along these lines. This includes a keyboard computer built on
Raspberry Pi, a tablet dedicated to using the web, an HDMI stick to turn
any TV into a smart TV and a Firefox branded smart router.

These are exactly the kinds of products we will be exploring as we expand
Firefox OS into new form factors and innovative new products in the world
of connected devices beyond smartphones.

I'd say to everyone - don't take too much notice of the clickbait headlines
in the tech press. Firefox OS is very much alive and expanding into new
areas. We also haven't given up on the smartphone which is still a key
component of the connected home, we're just pulling back on sales of
devices through carriers while we re-imagine the smartphone user experience
as something even more Mozilla. Foxfooding will be more important than ever
as we test out new ideas.

The product team is currently working on a process by which new product
ideas can be proposed and under the right circumstances can be given
resources to move forward. This process will be open to the community as
we're going to need the full force of the community to write the next
chapter of the Firefox OS story
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KtOp5IFW38>.

Ben

On 13 December 2015 at 19:26, Leo Francisco <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Just going to throw this out there for a bit of vision.
>
> Imagine FFOS or some permeation of it running on your router, IOT devices
> and TV. Updates straight from Mozilla or the community. Secure free
> software that you can trust on the smart devices that will become
> ubiquitous in your house.
>
> I think the phone market is just too locked down to carve out a niche.
> Apple did it through UI/Hardware design and Google did it by giving the
> carriers free reign on their OS. Unless there is some massive advancement
> on the open hardware front, there's no way proper free software projects
> can be anything more than a niche on the phone.
>
> There's a couple of areas that could be considered:
>
> The home router is still one of the areas where free software should
> dominate but instead we're stuck in this weird middle ground where the
> majority of routers are running some old crunky version of Linux, long
> abandoned by the manufacturer. Maybe a great GUI on top of a Linux Kernel
> could be a basis for a great router OS. Add some features for robust
> "cloud" streaming/storage.  I'd buy that. Sort of meeting point between
> FreeNAS/DD-WRT with a great modern customizable GUI.
>
> Could also link up with a "Matchstick" style stick in the back of your TV
> and could link with the router storage stuff and be sent content from the
> Firefox browser. The Chromecast but done right. All secure, tightly
> integrated and in direct partnership with hardware manufactures who aren’t
> bothered about controlling the software themselves.
>
> Just a couple of ideas. Not sure if they represent true gaps in the
> market. Sorry for the essay. Anyone have any other ideas?
>
> Leo
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 09/12/15 21:26, Reza Akhavan wrote:
>
> These two tweets are also helpful:
>
> https://twitter.com/jaaksi/status/674678654333550593
> FirefoxOS is alive and strong, but the push through carriers is over. We
> pivot to IoT and user experience. #mozlando
>
> https://twitter.com/jaaksi/status/674371311708319745
> #Mozilla will stop offering Firefox OS phones through carriers. But we
> will continue improving web experience on smartphones. #mozlando
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 9, 2015 at 3:23 PM, Wilfred Mathanaraj <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> And a blog post went also live now:
>>
>>
>> https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2015/12/09/firefox-os-pivot-to-connected-devices/
>>
>> Wilfred
>>
>> -
>>
>> > On 9 Dec 2015, at 14:14, David Rajchenbach-Teller <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > For what it's worth, the entire FFOS team (as well as PR) is traveling
>> > this week. Not the best week to get in touch with them.
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > David
>> >
>> >> On 09/12/15 14:11, KUPOinyourWINDOW wrote:
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>> personally will be really upset if my Flame suddenly stops receiving
>> updates but venting here isn't going to change that. All we can do is wait
>> and hope.
>> >> I simply appreciate that people working on FFOS take their time to
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