I received this, so I'm guessing everyone else did.

I don't know the answer, I just use the libraries and let them do it.

I don't fully understand long-chain polymer chemistry either, but it doesn't stop me 
from frying eggs.

-----Original Message-----
From:   Chris Love [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Tuesday, February 12, 2002 10:51 AM
To:     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:        FW: DES IV

Lets try this again

Chris Love

Extreme Web Works

www.extremewebworks.com

919-836-0998



-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Love [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2002 12:38 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: DES IV


Well after wasting the weekend on this, I am just going to give up
again.  So that makes for over a year trying to wasde through these long
documents only to find they do not help AT ALL in developing a client to
interface to the OPENSRS system.

The document you refered me too only has made things worse, I think.  I
am trying to use DES, the document is for Blowfish.  But it does help me
know that the PDF's posted on the OPENSRS site are even more worthless
than I thought.  The system obvisouly has many unpublished and
proprietary routines in it that no one seems to understand.

Why can't the test server actually return some sort of error code or
provide a test interface to see if we are on the right track?  Just
dropping us off is SOOOOO frustrating.  

I am getting to the checksum and then trying to send the MD5 'digest'
back.  I try to encrypt it using DES, sending the server the DES
encrypted block using the key I generated.  So I asked about it last
week and got a little help from Charles and one of the OPENSRS staff.
What perplexes me is that neither one seems to understand the encryption
parts of the system, which is the hard part of the whole process.  This
is troubling to me.

What I do find out from Charles' reply is that there are many things
going on in the encryption process and obvisouly what works for Blowfish
does not work for DES.  These are public symetric encryption methods.  I
went through and evaluated many articles and sample code to come to the
conclusion that this is not a public interface and PERL is simply not an
acceptable language for us and many others to work with.

So with all this said and much venting included.  Please DOCUMENT the
system properly so that we may right clients for our sites and
management software to that we can properly promote domain registration.

Thanks for bearing with my frustration and I just hope this will finally
help me get this stuff completed.  I have spent many weekends over the
past year trying to figure this stuff out.

Chris Love

Extreme Web Works

www.extremewebworks.com

919-836-0998



-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
Behalf Of Charles Daminato
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 8:53 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: DES IV


While I can't answer this directly (I'm not all that familiar with
encryption and techniques), there is a rather nice document written by
one of our resellers that's available to anyone that wants it...  It's
written with Delphi in mind, but this should give you a shot.

Apologies for the format, it's a .doc file (word), I'm trying to PDF-ize
it. You can grab it here:

http://opus.tucows.com/decipher.doc

Thank you Christine Warner :)

BTW - our suggestion is that you use Blowfish, it's faster, stronger
encryption.

Charles Daminato
OpenSRS Product Manager
Tucows Inc. - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> Behalf Of Chris Love
> Sent: February 8, 2002 7:42 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: DES IV
>
>
> I am new to this whole encryption thing, but I need some assurance.
> We get a key generated for us from OPENSRS, but where do I get an 
> Initilization Vector (IV) for DES?  Can I just make something up?
>
>
> Chris Love
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://extremewebworks.com
>
>

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