On Monday, October 13, 2014 11:10:02 PM UTC+1, Nils Ohlmeier wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> 
> 
> On 10/13/14 11:26 AM, Henrique Rosa wrote:
> 
> > Hello,
> 
> >
> 
> > I've been working on WebRTC support for Mobicents Media Server (MMS).
> 
> > I already succeeded at interop between MMS and Firefox/Chrome.
> 
> >
> 
> > Unfortunately, while testing conference calls I noticed that there is a 
> > tendency for RTT times and Delay to increase as the call goes on (on both 
> > browsers).
> 
> >
> 
> > On Chrome, the delay ranges from 3 to 10 seconds for a conference call 
> > between two participants with duration of 3-4 minutes.
> 
> > On Firefox the results are much better: the delay ranges from 1 to 3 
> > seconds in the same scenario.
> 
> > Note that while testing with regular SIP clients (jitsi, linphone, xlite) 
> > there is no delay whatsoever, so the issue is related with WebRTC calls.
> 
> >
> 
> > My question is: what can possibly cause such delay?
> 
> >
> 
> The one obvious difference between WebRTC and "regular SIP clients" is 
> 
> the additional media encryption. But should not take seconds, at least 
> 
> if you are using modern desktop PC.
> 
> 
> 
> The other question is how much delay FF and Chrome add between capturing 
> 
> audio and actually sending them out on the wire. And on the other end 
> 
> how delay there is between receiving audio packets and rendering to your 
> 
> audio device.
> 
> 
> 
> Best regards
> 
>    Nils Ohlmeier

Hi Nils, 

Thank you for taking you time, really appreciate it.

The media encryption is not the issue, I debugged that and its fast.

I'm sending some logs from the test call I did on Firefox v32.
Firefox will make a call to an IVR application that plays announcements for 40 
seconds.
In the meantime, I had the Media Server tracing the RTCP reports and RTT 
calculations.
I remind you it's a local call, so network congestion shouldn't be a problem 
either.

- Media Server log: 
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/47489176/webrtc-mux-ffox32/mms-log.txt
- Firefox webrtc log: 
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/47489176/webrtc-mux-ffox32/about-webrtc.txt
- Wireshark dump: 
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/47489176/webrtc-mux-ffox32/mms-ffox32.pcapng

Performing same test with SIP clients has no delay and RTT values range from 5 
to 25ms approx.
Reading the Media Server log, you can see the RTT growth rate is as follows:

16:35:25,169 INFO  [RtpMember] rtt=3242011459 - 3241960996 - 47825 = 2638 => 
40ms
16:35:29,570 INFO  [RtpMember] rtt=3242299883 - 3242208002 - 87674 = 4207 => 
64ms    (+24ms)
16:35:36,989 INFO  [RtpMember] rtt=3242786095 - 3242723311 - 57543 = 5241 => 
79ms    (+15ms)
16:35:42,508 INFO  [RtpMember] rtt=3243147788 - 3242997252 - 144437 = 6099 => 
93ms   (+14ms)
16:35:46,891 INFO  [RtpMember] rtt=3243435032 - 3243274862 - 152405 = 7765 => 
118ms  (+25ms)
16:35:52,248 INFO  [RtpMember] rtt=3243786108 - 3243546968 - 229851 = 9289 => 
141ms  (+23ms)
16:35:55,109 INFO  [RtpMember] rtt=3243973607 - 3243796725 - 166610 = 10272 => 
156ms (+15ms)
16:36:01,929 INFO  [RtpMember] rtt=3244420562 - 3244165365 - 243715 = 11482 => 
175ms (+19ms)

If you want to compare results with a similar test I did on Chrome Canary v40, 
you can refer to the following thread:

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/discuss-webrtc/DmZ2eYKGPWA

Lately I've been reading about RTP usage on WebRTC and came across RTP/SAVPF 
profile and RTCP XR report. At the moment we only support RTP/SAVP and regular 
RTCP reports. Do you think this can have an impact on RTT calculations and 
delay?

Best Regards, 
- H
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