Thank you for all the hard work you've put into this, Niklas!
I'm happy to see this shipping!

On Wed, 15 Dec 2021 at 17:54, Niklas Gögge <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi, everyone!
>
> Here is a quick update to clear up the uncertainty and confusion.
>
> In the past two weeks we have taken a look at the SameSite cookie WPTs
> that Firefox was failing, investigated the breakages that were reported to
> us and also had QA testing done to ensure there are no breakages on any
> major sites.
> With renewed confidence, we have reached the conclusion that we will still
> ship in Firefox 96.
>
> - Niklas
> On Tuesday, November 30, 2021 at 8:24:13 PM UTC+1 Dragana Damjanovic wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I would prefer that all breakages reported so far are resolved or
>> otherwise explained before this hits the late Beta. Some of these bugs were
>> reported as late as last month.
>>
>> Can we have a checkpoint before this hits the late Beta? An internal
>> email would be enough.
>> Please close bugs that are not reproducible or write a comment that
>> explains your investigation. I would expect that all breakage bugs are
>> closed before shipping.
>>
>> dragana
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 6:47 PM Niklas Gögge <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Dragana and Valentin, We are fairly confident that we won't face
>>> major breakages when released given that: - We have had these features
>>> enabled on Nightly for over a year. - We will have them on Beta soon. -
>>> Google Chrome has shipped them over a year ago. That being said, there can
>>> of course still be bugs and we have been going through the breakages listed
>>> in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1618610. So far all the
>>> breakages we got to were no longer reproducible and we will continue to
>>> verify the rest. Thanks for pointing out the WPT failures, we will make
>>> sure to investigate those. Should we get a significant amount of breakage
>>> reports in Beta we will delay the shipping.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, November 30, 2021 at 3:34:28 PM UTC+1 [email protected]
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> There are also a number of sameSite web platform tests that are
>>>> currently marked as failing.
>>>> Before shipping this we should at least try to fix those which pass in
>>>> other browsers.
>>>> https://wpt.fyi/results/cookies?label=experimental&label=master&aligned
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, 30 Nov 2021 at 15:28, Dragana Damjanovic <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a question about the bugs linked to:
>>>>> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1618610
>>>>> and also
>>>>> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1651119
>>>>>
>>>>> There are some webcompat issues linked as well.
>>>>> Are we confident that these issues are fixed?Can we close them? I
>>>>> would prefer a comment in them saying what is the status, or do we have a
>>>>> doc that analyzes these issues?
>>>>> Do these issues reproduce in Chrome or are they Firefox specific? In
>>>>> the latter case that would be a bug in our code.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> dragana
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 1:45 PM Niklas Gögge <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> As of Firefox 96 we intend to ship “SameSite=Lax by default”,
>>>>>> “SameSite=None only if secure” and “Schemeful SameSite” on all platforms.
>>>>>> These features have been developed behind the following preferences:
>>>>>> “network.cookie.sameSite.laxByDefault”,
>>>>>> “network.cookie.sameSite.noneRequiresSecure”, and
>>>>>> “network.cookie.sameSite.schemeful”.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Link to the proposal:
>>>>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-west-cookie-incrementalism-01
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Summary:
>>>>>>   "1.  Treat the lack of an explicit "SameSite" attribute as
>>>>>>        "SameSite=Lax".  That is, the "Set-Cookie" value "key=value"
>>>>>> will
>>>>>>        produce a cookie equivalent to "key=value; SameSite=Lax".
>>>>>>        Cookies that require cross-site delivery can explicitly
>>>>>> opt-into
>>>>>>        such behavior by asserting "SameSite=None" when creating a
>>>>>>        cookie.
>>>>>>    2.  Require the "Secure" attribute to be set for any cookie which
>>>>>>        asserts "SameSite=None" (similar conceptually to the behavior
>>>>>> for
>>>>>>        the "__Secure-" prefix).  That is, the "Set-Cookie" value
>>>>>>        "key=value; SameSite=None; Secure" will be accepted, while
>>>>>>        "key=value; SameSite=None" will be rejected.
>>>>>>    3.  Require both the scheme and registrable domain of a request's
>>>>>>        client's "site for cookies" to match the target URL when
>>>>>> deciding
>>>>>>        whether a given request is considered same-site.  That is, a
>>>>>>        request initiated from "http://site.example"; to
>>>>>>        "https://site.example"; should be considered cross-site."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Google Chrome has already shipped these features.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bug to turn on by default:
>>>>>> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1617609
>>>>>>
>>>>>> SameSite MDN Docs:
>>>>>> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTTP/Headers/Set-Cookie/SameSite
>>>>>> web-platform-tests:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://github.com/web-platform-tests/wpt/tree/master/cookies/samesite-none-secure
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://github.com/web-platform-tests/wpt/tree/master/cookies/schemeful-same-site
>>>>>> https://github.com/web-platform-tests/wpt/tree/master/cookies/samesite
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