We´ll talk with the Management and the Certification Audit Body and will give feedback.

Arno


Am 10.08.2017 um 15:57 schrieb Ryan Sleevi:
Under the Baseline Requirements, v1.4.8 (current version), 4.9.1.1,

"The CA SHALL revoke a Certificate within 24 hours if one of more of the
following occurs:
  9. The CA is made aware that the Certificate was not issued in accordance
with these requirements or the CA's Certificate Policy or Certification
Practice Statement"

Since the passage of Ballot 165 (
https://cabforum.org/2016/07/08/ballot-164/ ), adopted in version 1.3.7
"Effective September 30, 2016, CAs SHALL generate Certificate serial
numbers greater than zero (0) containing at least 64 bits of output from a
CSPRNG."

So these were not issued in accordance with these Requirements, and thus
subject to revocation.

On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 7:55 AM, Fiedler, Arno via dev-security-policy <
dev-security-policy@lists.mozilla.org> wrote:

Hello Jonathan,

the certificate has 64 bits of entropy in the "DNqualifier" field instead
of the serial number field.

Since 2012 we used this way of adding random bits to certificates to
mitigate  preimage attacks
 From a security perspective the amount of Entropy in the certificate
should be reasonable.

Do you see a security need for revoking the certificate?

Viele Grüße

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Von: Jonathan Rudenberg [mailto:jonat...@titanous.com]
Gesendet: Dienstag, 8. August 2017 19:12
An: Fiedler, Arno
Cc: mozilla-dev-security-pol...@lists.mozilla.org
Betreff: Re: Certificate issued by D-TRUST SSL Class 3 CA 1 2009 with
short SerialNumber


On Aug 8, 2017, at 08:58, Fiedler, Arno via dev-security-policy <
dev-security-policy@lists.mozilla.org> wrote:
Dear Mozilla Security Policy Community,

Thanks for the advice about the short serial numbers and apologies for
the delayed response.
Since 2016, all D-TRUST TLS certificates based on electronic Certificate
Requests have a certificate serial number which includes 64 bits of entropy.
Between 2012 and July 6th, 2017 we produced a small number of
certificates with  paper-based Certificate Registration Requests using 64
bits of entropy in the "DNqualifier" field instead of the serial number
field.
Since the 7th of July, 2017, all D-TRUST TLS-Certificates have 64 bits
of entropy in the serial number.
I hope this helps and please do not hesitate to contact us if there are
any further questions.

Hi Arno,

It doesn’t look like this certificate has been revoked yet?
https://crt.sh/?id=174827359&opt=cablint

Can you explain why it hasn’t been revoked yet and when it will be?

Thanks,

Jonathan
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