Doesn't the "created after January 1, 2019" mean that there is no problem with 
old crosses?  It would just be a new policy for new crosses as of next year?

-Tim

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> bounces+tim.hollebeek=digicert....@lists.mozilla.org] On Behalf Of Bruce via
> dev-security-policy
> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2018 10:28 AM
> To: mozilla-dev-security-pol...@lists.mozilla.org
> Subject: Re: Do We Now Require Separate Cross-certificates for SSL and
> S/MIME?
> 
> Note the BRs define Cross Certificate as "a certificate that is used to 
> establish a
> trust relationship between two Root CAs."
> 
> I think the intent was to technically restrict subordinate CAs or rather CAs
> which are online and issue end entity certificates. My assumption is that we
> want to 1) not allow a subordinate CA to issue a certificate which it was no
> intended to issue and 2) mitigate the risk if an online subordinate CA has 
> been
> compromised.
> 
> Typically, if an old root cross-certifies a new root, the purpose is to give 
> the
> new root browser/OS ubiquity. The new root may be used to support end
> entity certificates of many types (e.g., Server Auth, S/MIME, Client Auth, 
> Code
> Signing, Document Signing, Time-stamping ...). If we restrict the cross-
> certificate, then this will limit the use of a new root. Also note that the 
> new
> root is 1) not an issuing CA and 2) is offline, so the mitigation of technical
> restriction may already be satisfied.
> 
> Thanks, Bruce.
> 
> On Tuesday, July 10, 2018 at 7:21:26 PM UTC-4, Wayne Thayer wrote:
> > During a 2.6 policy discussion [1], we agreed to add the following
> > language to section 5.3 "Intermediate Certificates":
> >
> > > Intermediate certificates created after January 1, 2019:
> > >
> > >
> > > * MUST contain an EKU extension; and,
> > > * MUST NOT include the anyExtendedKeyUsage KeyPurposeId; and,
> > > * MUST NOT include both the id-kp-serverAuth and
> > > id-kp-emailProtection KeyPurposeIds in the same certificate.
> > >
> >
> > It has been pointed out to me that the very next paragraph of section
> > 5.3
> > states:
> >
> > These requirements include all cross-certified certificates which
> > chain to
> > > a certificate that is included in Mozilla’s CA Certificate Program.
> > >
> >
> > The term "cross-certified certificates" could refer to the actual
> > cross-certificate, or it could refer to intermediate certificates that
> > chain up to the cross certificate. In the case of a root that is being
> > cross-certified, the former interpretation effectively means that
> > distinct cross-certificates would be required for serverAuth and
> > emailProtection, as
> > follows:
> >
> > 1 - Root <-- Cross-certificate (EKU=emailProtection) <-- Intermediate
> > certificate (EKU=emailProtection) <-- leaf certificate (S/MIME)
> > 2 - Root <-- Cross-certificate (EKU=serverAuth) <-- Intermediate
> > certificate (EKU=serverAuth) <-- leaf certificate (SSL/TLS)
> >
> > Should our policy require cross-certificates to be constrained to
> > either serverAuth or emailProtection via EKU, or should this
> > requirement only apply to [all other] intermediate certificates?
> >
> > What is the correct interpretation of section 5.3 of the policy as
> > currently written?
> >
> > I would appreciate everyone's input on these questions.
> >
> > - Wayne
> >
> > [1]
> >
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