I would appreciate it if we could move the discussion of exceptions to the
deadline for revoking certificates containing underscores to a new thread.

As it relates to this request, any failure to meet the revocation deadline
would trigger the creation of an incident bug. (that is unless we as a
community decide otherwise)

I am not of the opinion that the existence of such a bug would change the
outcome of this discussion. If others feel that it might, I am not opposed
to holding the discussion open. Meanwhile, i'd suggest we stick to
discussing the current facts of this request.

- Wayne

On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 2:17 PM Jeremy Rowley <jeremy.row...@digicert.com>
wrote:

> We can revoke them all by then. The question is do the browsers really
> want us to?
>
> Since we started a public discussion, here's the details:
>
> There are several prominent websites that use certs with underscore
> characters in connection with major operations. I was hoping to get
> permission to post the names of these companies before I started a public
> discussion, but se le vie - the discussion already started. These companies
> are currently in their blackout period which ends around mid-Jan. We're
> scheduled to revoke on Jan 14th per the BR change. However, we've heard
> back from several of them that they won't complete the migration by then.
> This will take down several of the Fortune 500's websites for a change in
> the BRs that no one can understand. What we're wondering is how the
> browsers feel about revocation vs. shutting down the sites. Public
> discussion is welcome while I still try to get the names. Unfortunately,
> most companies of that size require a legal review of the communication
> before we can post their name...
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dev-security-policy <dev-security-policy-boun...@lists.mozilla.org>
> On Behalf Of Ryan Sleevi via dev-security-policy
> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 12:19 PM
> To: Wayne Thayer <wtha...@mozilla.com>
> Cc: mozilla-dev-security-policy <
> mozilla-dev-security-pol...@lists.mozilla.org>
> Subject: Re: DigiCert Assured ID Root CA and Global Root CA EV Request
>
> This deadline is roughly five weeks before all underscore certificates
> must be revoked (per Ballot SC12). Given the number of underscore
> certificates under various DigiCert operated hierarchies, would you think
> it appropriate to consider whether or not SC12 (and, prior to that, the
> existing BR requirements in force when those certificates were issued) was
> followed by that date?
>
> More concretely: If DigiCert were to fail to revoke certificates by that
> deadline, would it be a reason to consider denying EV status to these roots
> / removing (if a decision is made to grant) it?
>
> I realize the goal is to close discussion a month prior to that date, but
> I suspect such guidance about the risk of failing to abide by SC12, and
> failing to revoke by January 15, would be incredibly valuable to DigiCert
> and their customers.
>
> On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 1:39 PM Wayne Thayer via dev-security-policy <
> dev-security-policy@lists.mozilla.org> wrote:
>
> > Reminder: the 3-week discussion period for this request to EV-enable
> > two DigiCert roots ends next Friday 7-December.
> >
> > - Wayne
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 5:00 PM Wayne Thayer <wtha...@mozilla.com>
> wrote:
>
>
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