G’day Corey,

I am not sure if the phrase “…outputting 64 random bits from the CSPRNG and 
then coercing the most significant bit to 0” is actually an accurate 
representation of what is happening under the covers – we have asked for 
clarification from the developers so we can all have an informed discussion (I 
know that DM is not the only CA using this platform). My anticipation is that 
what happens is that CSPRNG process is repeated until a positive INTEGER is 
returned. In which case a 64-bit output from a CSPRNG is contained in the 
serialNumber as is required. Please note, the requirement is not a 64-bit 
number, but that a 64-bit output from a CSPRNG process is contained in the 
serialNumber, and we believe this is exactly what is happening.


Regards,


--

Scott Rea

On 2/25/19, 5:48 AM, "dev-security-policy on behalf of Corey Bonnell via 
dev-security-policy" <dev-security-policy-boun...@lists.mozilla.org on behalf 
of dev-security-policy@lists.mozilla.org> wrote:

    Hi Scott,
    Thank you for the prompt response and the transparency in regard to the 
software stack used by your CA operations. The detailed response that you 
provided will hopefully make it easier to highlight the disconnect we have.

    You are correct that ASN.1 INTEGERs are 2's-complement signed integers. 
Every DarkMatter-issued certificate that I've encountered (both those chained 
to Digicert roots as well as your roots as well as the DarkMatter root 
certificates themselves) has an INTEGER data size of exactly 8 octets (64 
bits). By outputting 64 random bits from the CSPRNG and then coercing the most 
significant bit to 0 (to make the INTEGER value positive, as you mentioned) 
means that the CA software is discarding one bit from the CSPRNG (since the 
most significant bit is being coerced to 0) and embedding only 63 bits of 
CSPRNG output in the certificate serial number. Section 7.1 of the Baseline 
Requirements requires at least 64 bits output from a CSPRNG, so I do not 
believe the serial number generation scheme that you have described is 
compliant.

    Thanks,
    Corey





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