On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 8:54 PM Kirk Hall via dev-security-policy <
dev-security-policy@lists.mozilla.org> wrote:

> What the heck does it mean when sometimes you say you are posting "in a
> personal capacity" and sometimes you don't?


It sounds like you were very prescient in your inability to remember
things, as you mentioned at
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/mozilla.dev.security.policy/cCeLZuxAOvQ/iM1cbmxjDgAJ

Hope that helps explain how things work. I sometimes include it to help jog
the memory of folk who tend to forget, so sorry that the extra reminder
sounds like it might have confused you.


> does GSB use any EV certificate identity data in its phishing algorithms.
> My understanding is that the answer is yes,
>

That's a good question, but I'm not sure where your understanding came
from! I was hoping you could share more, since that would definitely be the
easiest way to confirm it. It sounds like you're not sure, and you don't
have any evidence handy. If you can find out more information, can you
report back? It seems like you have some contacts or some information that
led you to your conclusion, I'm sure there is no one more effective or
efficient at finding an answer than you.

I've never heard of that, so of course, I wouldn't know where to start. On
the other hand, if you're not sure, it might be clearer not to definitively
state that's how things work, or presume they work? That might make it a
bit clearer about what's real and what's imagined, in case you're just
misremembering things. After all, if you don't know, and I don't know, and
no one else here knows, maybe it's worth focusing on the things we do know
instead of speculating?

The information I have about use of EV identity data for anti-phishing
> algorithms was all provided in private communications, so I would not be
> able to name any names without permission.  I have already emailed two
> people about this,
>

Great! Then it sounds like we're on track to having you report back once
you know more. I look forward to hearing how they've solved this, as it
sounds like EV might have be valuable even when the UI isn't shown. That
would be great validation that you don't need to show prominent UI to get
user benefit.
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