All,

Today I read through the Certainly CP/CPS and reviewed the Compliance
Self-Assessment and GoDaddy's review documents. I did not see anything in
the CP/CPS that did not conform to the Mozilla Root Store Policy or the
CA/B Forum's Baseline Requirements.

I also looked at the GoDaddy-Fastly cross-certificate profiles and did not
see anything that concerned me.

The public comment period will close next Wednesday, 9-Mar-2022.  Please
provide any additional comments you may have by then.

Yours sincerely,

Ben

On Tue, Mar 1, 2022 at 11:43 PM 'Brittany Randall' via
[email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:

> Regarding the GoDaddy CP/CPS review of Certainly, we have attached the
> following review artifacts to Bug 1755851
> <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1755851>:
>
>    - Attachment Compendium.pdf
>    - CPCPSReviewTracker.xlsx
>    - CSAReview.zip (contains three files)
>    - FastlyWebTrustAuditReportReview.zip (contains seven files)
>
> The first document, “Attachment Compendium.pdf” provides details and
> additional context for the remaining three attachments uploaded. Also, for
> reference, Certainly has published version 1.3 of the Certainly CP/CPS to
> https://certainly.com/repository/
>
> Best,
>
> Brittany Randall
>
> On Friday, February 25, 2022 at 9:06:08 AM UTC-7 Brittany Randall wrote:
>
>> We can provide some of our review documentation. I'll shoot to have
>> something early next week. I'll plan to add any attachments to the bug, but
>> will reply in this discussion to let folks know items are there.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Brittany
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 22, 2022 at 2:12:50 AM UTC-7 [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 21/2/2022 3:28 π.μ., Ryan Sleevi wrote:
>>> > This speaks to Dimitris' point, or perhaps misunderstanding, about the
>>> > root inclusion process. The suggestion of there being simply a three
>>> > week review process overlooks the significant, and transparent,
>>> > vetting that occurs on the CCADB Case and Bugzilla issue prior to
>>> > acceptance, including, as has been previously mentioned, the detailed
>>> > CP/CPS review by someone who regularly performs CP/CPS reviews, and
>>> > with a vested interested towards protecting users. The incentives,
>>> > process, and outcomes are all radically different with respect to
>>> > subordination, and yet the risks are, at best, the same, or as
>>> > previously highlighted, even greater than those risks of a root (due
>>> > to shared fate).
>>>
>>> I would like to remind people that before Mozilla adopted the great
>>> practice for detailed CP/CPS reviews by its own staff (with the
>>> unquestionable incentives, experience that Ryan mentioned), the Mozilla
>>> community contributed to these CP/CPS reviews. Members of the community,
>>> including people associated with CAs and Browsers, were performing
>>> reviews (perhaps not as detailed as the ones performed during the last 2
>>> years) and technical checks (for example CRLs, OCSP and other "publicly
>>> visible" technical elements).
>>>
>>> My point is that we should not outright consider CA reviews as
>>> non-trusted. In fact, any review is useful especially if it is publicly
>>> disclosed. This is also supported in
>>> https://wiki.mozilla.org/CA/Application_Verification#Public_discussion.
>>>
>>> If GoDaddy has performed such an analysis in Certainly's CP/CPS, I would
>>> recommend its disclosure to this request so that members can
>>> independently assess. It would also help Ben with his review during the
>>> Root inclusion request process.
>>>
>>>
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