Yeah, this has been discussed a bit in the past I think. I recall one
person I mentioned it to being concerned that it would be seen as
"punitive" by making subscribers do extra work if things didn't work out. I
think that's "just" a comms issue, and am generally in favour of it. It
would be mechanically complex, especially during the initial phases where
it's arguably a competitive advantage to adopt such a practice later than
your peers.

I think it's viable, though, and would be interested in a more detailed
discussion of what mechanisms or tunables people have in mind. I had a
sketch of it somewhere but I think it was a victim of wiping a previous
laptop... :(

Mike


On Fri, Aug 9, 2024 at 1:26 PM 'Tim Hollebeek' via
[email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:

> > My proposal is that root programs require CAs to accept revocation
> reqests
> > from the root programs themselves for randomly-chosen certificates.  At
> > random intervals, a root program sends a (suitably
> > authenticated) email to the CA's problem reporting address stating "this
> > certificate should be considered compromised as of this moment, revoke in
> > line with the BRs".  Frequency and volume could be tuned to issuance
> > volume, with upper and lower bounds as needed to ensure universal
> > coverage without unduly burdening any particular CA with excessive
> > administrivia.
>
> Just wanted to highlight this proposal since it got lost in the later
> discussion ... I've had similar thoughts before, and this is an idea worth
> exploring. It would provide much more uniform and objective testing of the
> ability to rotate certificates, and would allow us to stop pretending that
> incidents are effective for that purpose (they aren't).
>
> -Tim
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