Steffen Schulz wrote:
> 
> Adding mechanisms always adds complexity, not only in terms of code but
> also in terms of things the admin should consider to setup a secure
> system. So the added complexity should be worth something.

Correct, however I'd say the added complexity in this case (which isnt 
that much) would be worth the gained security.

> 
> I guess my main point is that SRP or similar mechanisms are (hopefully)
> coming. They will not only offer higher password protection but are
> also resistant against MITM, without needing a certificate. I hope this
> will make SSL much more prominent even for low-security sites.

We will see, but something like, such a "tiny" modification like, a 
hashing input field could be much more quickly and easily implemented 
than those more complex solutions (in theory the next Firefox patch 
could include it).

> 
> SRP can also be used as a http-auth mechanism, but then it provides
> only limited security, as it could be used with limited SSL security or
> no SSL at all.

Yes, but here we are not even talking about HTTP authentication, but 
about form based logins, usually not even via SSL.

> Same for your scheme: It protects the password, but as
> an attacker I don't even need that if I can break the SSL protection or
> if SSL is not even used.

Can you explain why?

Alexander
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