"Machines are simple: a hammer, a door hinge, a steak knife. Systems are much 
more complicated; they have components, 
feedback loops, mean times between failure, infrastructure. Digital systems are 
daedal; even a simple computer program 
has hundreds of thousands of lines of computer code doing all sorts of 
different things. A complex computer program has
thousands of components, each of which has to work by itself and in interaction 
with all the other components. 
This is why object-oriented programming was developed: to deal with the 
complexity of digital systems...systems have bugs. 
A bug is a particular kind of failure...It's different from a malfunction. When 
something malfunctions, 
it no longer works properly. When something has a bug, it misbehaves in a 
particular way, possibly unrepeatable, and possibly 
unexplainable. Bugs are unique to systems. Machines can break, or fail, or not 
work, but only a system can have a bug."

- Bruce Schneier 

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Our weekly Security Engineering meeting is open to the Mozilla community and 
will take place on Thursday July 12 at 3 PM PDT. 

https://wiki.mozilla.org/SecurityEngineering 

Our standing agenda is : 

* Review currently active (P1) features against their established milestones, 
identify any blockers 
- https://wiki.mozilla.org/Security/Roadmap 
- https://wiki.mozilla.org/Privacy/Roadmap 

* Review roadmap priorities to ensure they accurately reflect active projects 
and Mozilla's priorities 

* Suggest additions or changes to roadmaps 

* Detailed discussion of features or outstanding issues as time permits 

* Upcoming events, OOO/travel, etc. 

Meeting details: 

* Thursday,July 12, 2012, 3 PM PDT 
* Conference room 3-P, Mountain View office, 3rd floor. 
(This week: also in SF office in 7-N (Noise Pop))
* Dial-in Info: 
- Vidyo room: MV-3P (Peanut Butter Jelly Time!) 
- In office or soft phone: extension 92 
- US/INTL: 650-903-0800 or 650-215-1282 then extension 92 
- Toll-free: 800-707-2533 then password 369 
- Conference num 95346 
* IRC backchannel: #security 

Previous Meeting's Notes : 
https://wiki.mozilla.org/SecurityEngineering/MeetingNotes/07-05-12

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