On Feb 22, 7:06 pm, "Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.)"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Robert Relyea wrote:
>
> > This is operating exactly as planned. both Firefox 2 and Firefox 3
> > have rejected the certificate as bad since the certificate is
> > inherently untrusted. Firefox 2 rejects the certificate in a way that
> > many users doe not recognize 'rejecting the certificate'. We have
> > fixed this problem in Firefox 3.
>
> Bob, expect to receive lots of such mail messages in the near future as
> FF3 will be released...> I would say that Firefox 3's new UI is a resounding 
> success as it
> > properly identified your certificate as broken in a way that you would
> > recognize.
>
> ...and also expect that there will be many disgruntled admins who used
> self-signed certificates up to now. It will take a while until this
> "success" will be accepted in a natural way. In the long run however I
> believe that the PKI trust model will gain in strength as it never did
> in the past.
>
> > If you need a server that other users need to trust, talk to Eddie;).
> > He can issue you server certs for a nominal fee, even free in some cases.
>
> Allow me to state for the ones who will browse the mailing lists for
> clues about this error (and many other new and related messages 
> likeSEC_ERROR_BAD_SIGNATURE), that basic Class 1 domain validated server
> certificates are issued for free athttp://www.startssl.com/and more
> advanced ones after successful Class 2 identity validation (and
> organization validation). Fees apply only for the validations performed
> and no fees are charged for the certificate(s) themselves. Basically one
> isn't limited on the amount of certificates one can create (some
> restrictions apply). Hope this helps!
>
> --
> Regards
>
> Signer:         Eddy Nigg, StartCom Ltd. <http://www.startcom.org>
> Jabber:         [EMAIL PROTECTED] <xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Blog:   Join the Revolution! <http://blog.startcom.org>
> Phone:          +1.213.341.0390

That's wonderful and all, but I am the user, not the network
administrator. I want to browse my college's Microsoft Exchange
service at https://mail.wyke.ac.uk/ Oops, I can't,
"sec_error_bad_signature". Firefox 3 wont even let me add an
exception, for reasons I can't quite understand.

Validate with technology all you like, but this is a case where the
technology is WRONG. This site is perfectly fine - myself, a superior
human being, can recognize that I am trying to browse a legitimate
server. It is not the role of the browser to outright block me from
doing this.

I WILL have a word with our technicians when I go back on Monday about
getting their certificate sorted, but they won't listen to me, I am
just a student. They will tell me to stick with Firefox 2 or use
Internet Explorer. And you know what? I NEED to read my emails, so I
just might have to.

Way to go, guys.
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