Hi Richard,

   I think as you that a great web authoring tool could be done. In 
fact, most of the job is done. There's just not enough organization on 
it. If you consider what you can do with NVu, Firefox extensions like 
those you can found here 
(https://addons.mozilla.org/fr/firefox/browse/type:1/cat:4) and other 
free software you can create your own dreamweaver.

   The problem is due to the fact that create a website is very complex 
and you often need to switch from Wysiwyg to source edition and that a 
wysiwyg editor cannot be used for a lot of cases. If i take my own 
experience with Wysiwyg, something like dreamweaver will never help me.

My first need is to create the main page in wich i will include the 
content. It's a completly different need and for this need, i actually 
edit sources and preview it's results with FF and when it's done, i try 
to get the same result in most important other browsers. A wysiwyg is 
not really what i need to improve my developement time. For this need, i 
would like to see an editor that will allow me to :
- edit CSS (layout position (percentage based by default), backgrounds, 
display type)...
- edit the html code but not in a wysiwyg way. The best way should be to 
edit layouts as in blogger.com but with more features. By example, if i 
want to add a partner list, i use, Layout>New layout>List based 
layout>Links.
- be ok with my template system (a customizeable template support based 
on data types (var, loop, condition) filled with generic "lorem ipsum" 
content ?).

We could call it the "Layout Editor"

The only wysiwyg needs that i have is to modify the content of my 
website (like for blogs, CMS etc... that are used by most of the 
websites). In this case, it's only content wysiwyg editor i need (that's 
why i did with my BBcomposer extension). In this case i do not have to 
edit a complete web page and i think that most of people have this kind 
of needs. Edit content only and why not, intégrate this content in the 
previously edited template. This Wysiwyg editor should be use to add a 
new page on the web site.

We could call it the "Content Editor"

And finally i need a CSS editor for HTML tags appearence redefinition. 
With this one, i will create a CSS that will allow me to redefine the 
default appearance of every tags that can be used to write the content 
of a page. It'll produce something like :
h1 { background:mybg.png; font: etc... }
This software could be imagined like a step by step editor asking to 
redefine most used tags appearence. After, each tags could be redefined 
again by chosing them in a drop-down list by example. In this kind of 
software, we only need a page with 10-20 sample pages to see how changes 
will affect the content of your website while editing CSS. Why not 
directly show preview on "Content editor" last created files.

We could call it the "Content Look Editor".

Finally, to allows this 3 components running together, i think we should 
create a "Web site editor" with :
- web pages manager
- images collections and image editors manager.
- ftp tools.
- css files collection with 2 types : content appearance css and website 
appearance css.

This Web site editor wil do exactly what dreamveawer do, but better for 
Accessibility, SEO and Standards compliance.

What do you think about this ? Any idea ? Does anybody want to create 
the editor of my dreams ?

Best regards,

Nicolas Froidure.
http://bbcomposer.elitwork.com


Richard Gaskin a écrit :
> Mozilla.org has liberated the world from the stranglehold Microsoft 
> once held over the most important software category of our generation, 
> the browser.  Faster, more capable, and far more secure, Firefox and 
> those who have contributed to it have done a tremendous service to us 
> all.
>
> Given Firefox's success, I've been surprised to see so little activity 
> in the second most important software category:  web authoring.
>
> Currently Adobe appears to have a monopoly on the cross-platform 
> market for web authoring in both source and WYSIWYG modes.  There are 
> other tools which do a fair job with the WYSIWYG side but prevent the 
> author from tweaking the source, and there are any number of source 
> editors which are great but simply require more time and effort for 
> many common tasks than a good code generator with a layout mode can do.
>
> It seems that a tool offering true "round trip" authoring, allowing 
> the author to switch between source and layout, would be the most 
> welcome compliment to Firefox.
>
> I've tried to find such an open source tool, a true Dreamweaver 
> Killer, but I haven't found one yet.  Mozilla Composer appears to be 
> EOLed, and the few successors appear to be languishing if they're 
> still in development at all.
>
> In much the same way that IBM and other large organizations have 
> helped fund Linux development, what would it take to pull together the 
> resources needed to make the world's greatest web authoring tool to 
> compliment the world's greatest browser?
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