On Oct 3, 2008, at 3:30 AM, Hannes Wallnoefer wrote:

> I guess I'll have to come out as the one who was afraid of the beast
> two years ago when Attila made me that offer. While I'm still very
> busy and partially scared, I feel more confident I now about finding
> the time and making decisions, especially since I work with Rhino as
> part of my day job.

That's okay. Most of us work like that. I was really contributing to  
Rhino when I was creating a system that used it as part of my day job  
too. After a while, it settled into a state where it was Good Enough  
for us -- we run half a million (maybe more) instances of big,  
nontrivial scripts per day in our systems for the last 5 years or so,  
and we didn't hit any bugs for long, long time. I think we're still on  
1.6.x ("x" might mean a private build I did sometime from CVS HEAD  
still back in the day). So I don't have much of a business case to  
hack Rhino at the moment (not that I wouldn't love to, it's just that  
things that *now* constitute my business case are entirely unrelated  
and suck away all my time).

As for being scared, that's again okay. I was too. I mean, anyone  
faced with the prospect of modifying a system of nontrivial complexity  
- one that he didn't create in the first place - might be a bit scared.
I take it as a welcome sign that you, in fact, know what is it you  
don't know; a sign of a wise person.

But you know, we have CVS. Nothing can be irretrievably broken.

> So I'd be willing to become a committer if current committers want me.
> Should I proceed as described in <http://www.mozilla.org/hacking/
> committer/> or wait for some kind of agreement?

I'm absolutely happy to hear that -- saw your Bugzilla issue, and  
already vouched for you.

> Hannes

Attila.

>
>
>> Attila.
>>
>> On Oct 2, 2008, at 9:22 AM, Marc Guillemot wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>
>>> what are the goals of the Rhino project? Are committers happy with  
>>> the
>>> current state?
>>
>>> Personally I'm not happy at all with this lack of activity (1) as we
>>> (HtmlUnit project) need an healthy Rhino.
>>
>>> I understand that current committers may not always have the time /
>>> interest and this is not a critic to their engagement here but I  
>>> think
>>> that more hands would help the project to progress faster!
>>
>>> So, please make the project more active, invite new committers (2),
>>> improve quality control to facilitate safe changes! From my  
>>> experience
>>> in HtmlUnit, I can say that new committers *really* help to bring  
>>> the
>>> project further.
>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Marc.
>>> --
>>> Web:http://www.efficient-webtesting.com
>>> Blog:http://mguillem.wordpress.com
>>
>>> (1) sorry if I don't see everything what you do. My appreciation is
>>> only
>>> base on what I can see in the mailing list and with regular update
>>> from CVS
>>> (2) this is not a request for myself. If you estimate that I can  
>>> help
>>> based on the different patches that I've submitted, why not but what
>>> really matters for me is that the project is active.





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