It's just a matter of talking to each other in a developer format, I guess. 
There is a very expensive Mozilla building close to the pier in San Francisco, 
either rented or owned by Mozilla. Doors that are closed to dev's and VC's who 
are uninvited.

What's the correct list to get invited, on topic, to change stuff? I inherently 
feel like i I just show up to bring by some proposals, I get kicked out very 
soon.

Dan



Am 11. März 2017 um 19:58 schrieb Manish Goregaokar <manishsm...@gmail.com>:

Maybe it is, but that's very off topic for this list.

-Manish Goregaokar

On Sat, Mar 11, 2017 at 10:56 AM, Dan Zulla <dzu...@icloud.com> wrote:
I understand that, yet, disregarding the dust - and with dust, I mean oldness - 
currently happening on web standards and current browser --

We haven't quite reached a level of low-to-high bandwidth streaming 
anything-onto-any device mobile/desktop 3G/Fiber/Any Bandwidth GPU rendered 
quality web/3D gaming/etc. stuff over the Web yet. Sure, WebGL/3D 
Canvas/ThreeJS exists, but...

Relevant features such as background-transparency for things like filter() and 
things like random(), along with other things, seem increasingly hard to 
implement, along with lengthy discussion such as this one, and C++ stuff seems 
increasingly hard to modify/extend/ask questions about without getting on 
mailing lists.

Mozilla financially supported scholarships and venture capital / seed funding / 
project funding budgets seem like zero to non-existent, and stuff - everything 
- is slow-to-boringly non existent..

Maybe time for a change of course at Mozilla? And with change-of-course I mean 
an entirely new web browsing experience and approach, very different from 
anything near to HTTP, HTML, CSS and Javascript. 

Dan





Am 11. März 2017 um 18:47 schrieb Manish Goregaokar <manishsm...@gmail.com>:

Also -moz features, such as -moz-element, even if - security relevant.

We don't want to add more of these. If we were to, they would either be 
something being used internally in XUL (unlikely for this feature), or features 
that are on track to standardization. Though I don't think we create new -moz 
prefixes anymore, and instead pref-gate things.

As far as I can tell the only way to get this feature in is to get it specced 
with tentative approval from a standards body.

-Manish Goregaokar

On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 11:30 PM, Dan Zulla <dzu...@icloud.com> wrote:
Messaged to the list. Needs approval. Would like to continue here with Firefox 
anyways. Maybe you know someone who has written significant portions of code of 
CSS3 animations?

I like Mozilla style and what has been accomplished. Also -moz features, such 
as -moz-element, even if - security relevant.

I was close to extracting Pixels.




Am 10. März 2017 um 06:48 schrieb Daniel Holbert <dholb...@mozilla.com>:

On 03/09/2017 09:43 PM, Dan Zulla wrote:
Add CSS3 random() before like June?

Still not clear. You want to "add" it...
- as a polyfill/demo-JS-implementation? That's up to you & whoever else
you can get interested in helping. :)

- ...as a CSS feature specced by the CSSWG? You'd want to propose it on
the working group mailing list, which is:
www-st...@w3.org
Archives at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/

~Daniel
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