See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=826555#c18. I'm not
convinced there's enough data yet here to confirm the proposal made. I
feel like product input is needed to prove or disprove the proposal.
Comments inline. A bit late to the game, so I might be repeating points
someone else already answered.
Sincerely,
Jason Smith
Desktop QA Engineer
Mozilla Corporation
https://quality.mozilla.com
On 1/10/2013 2:03 AM, Wil Clouser wrote:
This topic has graduated to mailing lists so we don't have a bunch of
independent discussions about it and we're all in agreement. :) Andrew
can answer the last question I hope so CCing him as well.
On 01/09/2013 04:45 PM, Jonas Sicking wrote:
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 12:31 AM, Wil Clouser <[email protected]> wrote:
As I understand it, in bug 826555 the platform is going to disallow app
renames.
For hosted apps:
1) This means if a hosted app changes their name, we change it in the
Marketplace (after a re-review) but due to #1 their app won't get
renamed on the phone ever
Actually, I was planning on rejecting renames from the app, which
would mean that the app not only doesn't get renamed, it also won't
get updated. But maybe we can add code to accept the update but change
it such that we maintain the old name. That should be doable, but as
we are so close to the deadline I don't want to give promises until
the code is in the tree.
2) If the user wants the new name on the phone, they can reinstall the
app from the marketplace. At that point, ____________. (Where
__________ is either it installs alongside the current one on the phone
or it replaces the current one on the phone. A question for Jonas, I
think).
If the user uninstalls and reinstalls the app, it will definitely
change name. But the user will also lose all data stored by the app.
If the user reinstalls the app on top of the existing app then we
might be able to make sure it changes name. But again, I don't want to
give promises until we have the code in the tree. But supporting
re-installs would require marketplace support too, right? Since
normally we don't enable a "install" button if the user already has
the app installed?
I'd really like to keep functionality involving reinstall OOS as much as
possible - most bugs on the client-side have been minused for blocking
since UX determined this to not be that important. I know we've had bugs
in the past on different platforms that was something along the lines of
"weird things happen when you try to reinstall an app with different app
manifest data than the existing app."
Yes, it would require marketplace support though. Right now if the app
is installed, the button changes from "install" to "launch" to allow the
app to be directly be launched.
3) Regardless of whether the App on the phone gets a new name, the
contents of the app will change, since it is a hosted app
The contents of the app indeed will. But see above. We might not
update the manifest which would mean that things like the icon and the
list of permissions would not update.
Why not update the permissions?
For packaged apps:
1) The phone will see the update for a new packaged app but, I assume,
will error somewhere along the way and never update.
Yes, that was the planned behavior. But if we change things to allow
the update without the name-change for hosted apps, we would probably
do so for signed apps as well.
2) If the user wants to ever get an update they will need to go to the
marketplace and install the newly named app. This will mean they lose
any local data and the app _______________ (where _____________ is
installing alongside the existing app or replacing it. If they share a
UUID, I expect it would replace it? Again, a question for Jonas)
Same answer as for hosted apps above.
The scenarios above sound like critically broken flows, even for a v1
product. Are they incorrect or do we have alternative solutions?
I'm really not convinced that application renames is common enough
that it's a must-have feature for v1. Do we have any data indicating
that renames are common enough that it's must-have? Do we know how
often add-ons change names?
This is the piece where I think product input is needed - I actually
don't think I know that answer effectively. Can we get product input here?
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