> On April 2, 2014, 3:36 p.m., Mike Drob wrote:
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> Mike Drob wrote:
>     Huh, RB proxy error ate my comment.
>     
>     I was speaking to some of the HBase team about this yesterday, and they 
> mentioned that they do not support replicated bulk import. Their recommended 
> solution is just to externally copy files and run bulk import on the slave. 
> Since this is something that is possible for users to configure themselves, 
> I'd like to make sure we focus on the difficult case of like ingest.
>     
>     Is the assumption that replication is an all-or-nothing deal? Either you 
> replicate all of the tables on a system, or you replicate none of them, but 
> just a defined set is not allowed? I believe the WAL groups mutations by 
> table IDs, so care would need to be taken to make sure those do not get out 
> of sync.
>     
>     What happens when I clone a table, for example when running an offline MR 
> job. does the clone need to be replicated? I assume no. If the slave is a 
> read-only implementation, can I make clones there to run MR? Maybe another 
> thing that will come out of this is 'transient clones' that have IDs in a 
> reserved high range that can be reused after they are deleted.
>     
>
> 
> Josh Elser wrote:
>     I believe I already said elsewhere that replication is on a per-table 
> basis. Replication for tables would (likely) have to be turned on, at which 
> point the offline-MR case isn't a worry.
> 
> kturner wrote:
>     Why not support replicating bulk imports?  Seems like it makes things 
> easier on users.
> 
> Mike Drob wrote:
>     Then the ID mapping is a worry.
> 
> Josh Elser wrote:
>     When configuring the replication, we would just track the source tableID 
> and the destination cluster and the destination tableID. Am I missing 
> something?
> 
> Mike Drob wrote:
>     If we're shipping WALs around, then the slave has to know the mapping 
> from source table ID to destination table ID. Then you need to have an extra 
> code path that checks for a mapping before performing "recovery."
>     
>     If we have cyclic replication, then you have to know which WAL you are 
> shipping, because that could imply a different mapping. Master table x maps 
> to slave table y maps to other slave table z. If we have master-master, then 
> both sides need to know the mapping, so I guess the table needs to exist on 
> both clusters before replication can be configured (so that we have a table 
> ID to use in the configuration).
>     
>     Also, if we're shipping WALs around, then it is possible that you have 99 
> mutations for a table that isn't replicated and 1 mutation that is 
> replpicated. Sending offsets and chunks can help minimize the bandwidth, 
> but...

Actually, another thing that would be really cool is self-replication where I 
clone a table and then replicate future writes to it.


- Mike


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On April 1, 2014, 1:58 a.m., Josh Elser wrote:
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> (Updated April 1, 2014, 1:58 a.m.)
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> Review request for accumulo.
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> Bugs: ACCUMULO-378
>     https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ACCUMULO-378
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> Repository: accumulo
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> Description
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> Re-posting a version of the design doc that I own. Contains grammatical fixes 
> from round one, with a few extra clarifications. New content should be posted 
> here, but I'll maintain the old review as discussion progresses.
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> Diffs
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>   docs/src/main/resources/design/ACCUMULO-378-design.mdtext PRE-CREATION 
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> Diff: https://reviews.apache.org/r/19862/diff/
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> Testing
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> Thanks,
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> Josh Elser
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