+1 to only depending on Hadoop client jars.
-- Joey Echeverria Chief Architect Cloudera Government Solutions On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 6:07 PM, Christopher <ctubb...@apache.org> wrote: > In general, I think this is reasonable... especially because Hadoop > Client stabilizes things a bit. On the other hand, things get really > complicated with dependencies in the pom (somewhat complicated), and > packaged dependencies (more complicated), when we're talking about > supporting both Hadoop 1 and Hadoop 2. I know some of us want to drop > Hadoop 1 support in 2.0.0, and I think this is one more good reason to > do that. > > Another data point that I think is going to complicate things a (very) > tiny bit: the work on ACCUMULO-2589 includes things like: drop the > dependencies on Hadoop from the API. But, we're likely to still have a > dependency on guava (there was a suggestion to use guava's @Beta > annotations in the API). Maybe this is fine.... because the packaging > considerations for the binary tarball are not the same as the API > module dependencies (though they'll have to be compatible), but it's > something to consider. > > -- > Christopher L Tubbs II > http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii > > > On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 4:45 PM, Sean Busbey <bus...@cloudera.com> wrote: >> ACCUMULO-2786 has brought up the issue of what dependencies we bring with >> Accumulo rather than depend on the environment providing[1]. >> >> Christopher explains our extant reasoning thus >> >>> The precedent has been: if vanilla Apache Hadoop provides it in its bin >> tarball, we don't need to. >> >> I'd like us to move to packaging any dependencies that aren't brought in by >> Hadoop Client. >> >> 1) Our existing practice developed before Hadoop Client existed, so we >> essentially *had* to have all of the Hadoop related deps on our classpath. >> For versions where we default to Hadoop 2, we can improve things. >> >> 2) We should encourage users to follow good practice by minimizing the >> number of jars added to the classpath. >> >> 3) We have to still include the jars found in Hadoop Client because we use >> hadoop. >> >> 4) Limiting the dependencies we rely on external sources to provide allows >> us to update more of our dependencies to current versions. >> >> 5) Minimizing the number of jars we rely on from external sources reduces >> the chances that they change out from under us (and thus reduces the number >> of external factors we have to remain cognizant of) >> >> 6) Minimizing the classpath reduces the chances of having multiple >> different versions of the same library present. >> >> I'd also like for us to *not* package any of the jars brought in by Hadoop >> Client. Due to the additional work it would take to downgrade our version >> of guava, I'd like to wait to do that. >> >> [1]: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ACCUMULO-2786 >> >> -- >> Sean