Christopher wrote:
I've had quite the foray into ASF release policies over the past two
> days which brings me back to this.
>
> I really don't believe that the amount of effort you claim we will save
> will actually be beneficial overall. Our dependencies do not frequently
> change which means that our L&N also do not frequently change.
>
> Even if I do concede that it will make things more simple for Accumulo
> in the short-term, you're forcing change from N organizations which
> already integrate Accumulo in its current state (you would force all
> downstream to change). I would rather solve this once in Accumulo.
>
> If you want to create such a script to help users build their own
> artifact for their specific installation: great. I believe that the
> argument that such a script would save time in Accumulo in managing our
> L&N is false.
>
I know it would have saved me a ton of time (and sanity) moving to
commons-math3. How often it saves us time is debatable, agreed. But, that's
not a primary motivation. It's just a slight benefit, which might reduce
the burden of bumping dep versions.
I have a PR ready to push... not sure I'm 100% happy with it, because of
the way it downloads deps one at a time (might be easier to download then
all at once using maven... but with some complication), and some of the
changes need to be pushed as a separate commit anyway. So perhaps you'll be
able to see better what I'm thinking when you can see the changeset.
As I said before, this isn't really about a single (or a few) big
benefit(s). It's about numerous tiny ones, which are admittedly hard to
measure. Whether it pays off in the long-run is hard to tell, but that's
what I'm targeting... the long-term, though there may be some road bumps in
the short-term. I'm convinced this is the right thing to do, but I can
understand the reluctance to accept my conclusion, when I've not done a
good job of articulating dramatic, easy-to-see benefits.:(
Would it be better for me to wait for your push before continuing
discussion? I feel like it's hard to talk over hypotheticals and might
just be distracting :). With changes, we can outline positives/negatives
rather than feelings.
