Update on 2.1 progress. Come on Folks, let's Hold The Line. [1]
14 Pull requests in progress. (-7 digression from last week)
1,130 marked as DONE. (+19)
https://github.com/apache/accumulo/projects/3

3 marked as TODO as Compaction follow on work:
https://github.com/apache/accumulo/projects/13

2 in progress & 2 TODO for the Single Node ZK follow on work.
https://github.com/apache/accumulo/projects/24

[1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htgr3pvBr-I

On Fri, May 20, 2022 at 11:25 AM Mike Miller <mmil...@apache.org> wrote:

> Update on 2.1 progress.
> 7 Pull requests in progress.
> 1111 marked as DONE. ( I just missed sending this at 11:11 EST)
> https://github.com/apache/accumulo/projects/3
>
> 3 marked as TODO as Compaction follow on work:
> https://github.com/apache/accumulo/projects/13
>
> 2 marked as TODO for the Single Node ZK follow on work.
> https://github.com/apache/accumulo/projects/24
>
>
>
> On Fri, May 13, 2022 at 9:38 AM Mike Miller <mmil...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Update on 2.1 progress.
>> 10 Pull Requests in progress.
>> 1,097 marked as DONE.
>> https://github.com/apache/accumulo/projects/3
>>
>> 3 Tickets marked as TODO as Compaction follow on work:
>> https://github.com/apache/accumulo/projects/13
>>
>> Only 1 Ticket marked as TODO for the ZK follow on work. I thought there
>> would be more here:
>> https://github.com/apache/accumulo/projects/24
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 8, 2022 at 7:00 AM Mike Miller <mmil...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Update on 2.1 progress. For pull requests:
>>> 15 currently in progress.
>>> 32 are open as TODO. But a lot of these will get bumped to the next
>>> version.
>>> 1,025 DONE. Wow! Good work everyone.
>>>
>>> https://github.com/apache/accumulo/projects/3
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 6, 2022 at 4:55 PM Christopher <ctubb...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> After some additional consideration, and getting a better understanding
>>>> of
>>>> how the code is expected to work from discussing it with Dave... I'm a
>>>> little more inclined to support #2422 in 2.1, provided:
>>>>
>>>> 1. There's time for me to review it,
>>>> 2. It is sufficiently decoupled from the existing code and marked
>>>> experimental, so that we have the flexibility to alter its design, if it
>>>> seems appropriate after it gets some exposure after the release,
>>>> 3. Unit tests and integration tests are reliably passing (as stable as,
>>>> or
>>>> more stable than, they are currently),
>>>> 4. No serious issues are discovered during review, and
>>>> 5. It doesn't delay a release past early June, as I think this is a
>>>> reasonable target date.
>>>>
>>>> This my wishlist before I can get behind it with a +1 for 2.1. If these
>>>> aren't met, I do not intend to veto, but I'd be a -0 on its inclusion to
>>>> 2.1. Of course, once I review it, my thoughts may change a bit.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Apr 4, 2022 at 7:07 PM Mike Miller <mmil...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > I think I can finish the FATE refactor PR [1] for 2.1. I had been
>>>> keeping
>>>> > it up to date with the latest in main but stopped because it was too
>>>> much
>>>> > work. I was waiting until the ZK property changes are completed before
>>>> > resolving the latest conflicts. I don't think it is much of a risk.
>>>> It is
>>>> > mostly cleanup and refactoring to remove generics from the
>>>> serialization
>>>> > code. It will be some work to revisit but I think the risk is pretty
>>>> low.
>>>> > It would allow changing the serialization, which we may be able to
>>>> get into
>>>> > 2.1 as well.
>>>> >
>>>> > [1] https://github.com/apache/accumulo/pull/2475
>>>> >
>>>> > On Mon, Apr 4, 2022 at 11:50 AM Keith Turner <ke...@deenlo.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > > On Mon, Apr 4, 2022 at 11:17 AM Christopher <ctubb...@apache.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > I haven't seen the metrics test fail very often lately. If it's
>>>> > stable, I
>>>> > > > don't mind removing the blocker on that issue, but I'd be
>>>> reluctant to
>>>> > > > close it entirely just yet, until we can verify it doesn't happen
>>>> > > anymore.
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > As for the original list of potential issues to include, I'm in
>>>> favor
>>>> > of
>>>> > > > trying to get #2197 in. It was started awhile ago, is relatively
>>>> simple
>>>> > > and
>>>> > > > well understood by several of us already... it just needs a bit of
>>>> > > > attention to finalize reviews so it can be merged.
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > However, I'm reluctant to include #2422, because I don't think
>>>> it's
>>>> > near
>>>> > > > ready enough, and by the time it is, it will be very last minute,
>>>> and I
>>>> > > > don't want to delay 2.1 further for it. Even if it's included as
>>>> an
>>>> > > > experimental feature, I think it has huge potential to be
>>>> disruptive,
>>>> > or
>>>> > > to
>>>> > > > have a lot of churn by the time people actually have a chance to
>>>> review
>>>> > > it
>>>> > > > thoroughly. Furthermore, I think there are possible alternatives
>>>> (like
>>>> > a
>>>> > > > fully client-side implementation, based on offline scanners) that
>>>> would
>>>> > > > avoid the tight coupling of a new service to Accumulo's core
>>>> code. This
>>>> > >
>>>> > > There are some advantages to scan servers over direct file access to
>>>> > > consider.  One is scalability of computation, if a web server is
>>>> > > serving N client queries with scan servers those can potentially go
>>>> to
>>>> > > different scan servers.  With direct file access, all N queries and
>>>> > > their iterator stacks would have to run in the web server.  Another
>>>> is
>>>> > > scalability of caching/memory.  When web servers send queries to
>>>> scan
>>>> > > servers using a sticky algorithm for assigning tablets to groups of
>>>> > > scan servers, it could lead to good cache utilization and sharing
>>>> that
>>>> > > may not be possible when running scans directly in the web server.
>>>> So
>>>> > > scan servers allow scaling cache and computations for queries
>>>> > > independently of web servers in way that may not be possible with
>>>> > > direct file access.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Another advantage to consider is isolation.  With direct file access
>>>> > > and queries running directly in a web server, a bad query could
>>>> bring
>>>> > > down a web server and lots of unrelated queries.  Having a bad query
>>>> > > bring down a scan server may be less disruptive.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > > thread isn't for discussing this in depth, so we can have that
>>>> > discussion
>>>> > > > in a separate thread, but I'm generally opposed to including it
>>>> this
>>>> > late
>>>> > > > in 2.1's development, given the timing, size and scope, tight
>>>> coupling,
>>>> > > and
>>>> > > > current state.
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > I don't know enough about #2475 to have a strong opinion, but it
>>>> looks
>>>> > > big,
>>>> > > > and possibly high-risk, given the critical code it touches. It
>>>> > currently
>>>> > > > has a substantial number of conflicts with the main branch.
>>>> However, I
>>>> > > was
>>>> > > > thinking that *some* minimal refactoring (like low-risk automatic
>>>> > > > refactoring, like moving packages) could be done. So, if that's
>>>> all
>>>> > this
>>>> > > > does, it might be okay. Otherwise, maybe it can be simplified? At
>>>> the
>>>> > > very
>>>> > > > least, I was thinking it would be a good opportunity to move the
>>>> > > > `org.apache.accumulo.fate` packages into an appropriate
>>>> > > > `org.apache.accumulo.core` parent package (some would go to
>>>> > > o.a.a.core.fate
>>>> > > > and others might go to o.a.a.core.util or similar) to keep the
>>>> package
>>>> > > > namespaces standardized, which is helpful to avoid naming
>>>> collisions
>>>> > and
>>>> > > > jar sealing issues, as well as for less complicated jigsaw module
>>>> > > > definitions in future. Since 2.1 FaTE is already incompatible with
>>>> > prior
>>>> > > > versions, a rename at this time would be less disruptive.
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > Another task I had wanted to be done for 2.1, before I got
>>>> distracted
>>>> > > > fixing test failures during and after Christmas and trying to work
>>>> > > through
>>>> > > > the singleton manager zookeeper stuff to see what we could
>>>> simplify.
>>>> > > What I
>>>> > > > had wanted done was to standardize the way we pass table
>>>> identifiers
>>>> > > (name,
>>>> > > > IDs) across the RPC layer, since we currently do that
>>>> inconsistently. I
>>>> > > > don't remember if there's an existing ticket open for it, but I
>>>> have a
>>>> > > > working branch I had started working out of for it before
>>>> Christmas.
>>>> > It's
>>>> > > > relatively simple work, and would set us up for some much better
>>>> APIs
>>>> > > going
>>>> > > > forward, as well as help with logging information about table
>>>> actions.
>>>> > If
>>>> > > > necessary, it could be bumped to a future version, but then we'd
>>>> have
>>>> > > more
>>>> > > > churn in the thrift layer. So, I'd prefer to get it for 2.1 to
>>>> avoid
>>>> > > that.
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > As for planning, I was thinking early May for a code freeze
>>>> (except bug
>>>> > > > fixes and small improvements found during testing), so we can try
>>>> to
>>>> > > > release towards the end of May/early June. If we go with that
>>>> timeline,
>>>> > > > that's not a lot of time to wrap up features and have time for
>>>> > > > review/testing, so we may need to be selective about what we hold
>>>> off
>>>> > > until
>>>> > > > the next version, unless we want to further delay 2.1.
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > On Mon, Apr 4, 2022 at 9:13 AM Dave Marion <dmario...@gmail.com>
>>>> > wrote:
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > > I think [3] is OBE and can be closed.
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > > On Mon, Apr 4, 2022 at 9:11 AM Mike Miller <mmil...@apache.org>
>>>> > wrote:
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > > > Yes I agree, that was the goal of this email thread. I found
>>>> a few
>>>> > > more
>>>> > > > > > tickets that should be addressed for the next release.
>>>> > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > Ivan - There was some work done on this PR but it has been
>>>> some
>>>> > > time. Do
>>>> > > > > > you want to take a look at it? Implement a Thread limit. [1]
>>>> > > > > > Keith T - I think we should get this one merged to fix that
>>>> > > consistency
>>>> > > > > > check bug I found. It looks like it is finished. [2]
>>>> > > > > > Dave & Dom - Were you guys able to figure out a fix for the
>>>> new
>>>> > > external
>>>> > > > > > compaction metrics test? [3]
>>>> > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > FYI we have 6 blockers for 2.1:
>>>> > > > > > https://github.com/apache/accumulo/labels/blocker
>>>> > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > This is almost definitely going into 2.1 [4]. Thanks Jeff!
>>>> > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > [1] https://github.com/apache/accumulo/pull/1487
>>>> > > > > > [2] https://github.com/apache/accumulo/pull/2574
>>>> > > > > > [3] https://github.com/apache/accumulo/issues/2406
>>>> > > > > > [4] https://github.com/apache/accumulo/pull/2215
>>>> > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > On Fri, Apr 1, 2022 at 2:21 PM Dave Marion <
>>>> dmario...@gmail.com>
>>>> > > wrote:
>>>> > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > I think it would be useful to do some release planning so
>>>> that we
>>>> > > know
>>>> > > > > > what
>>>> > > > > > > features we are working towards and in which release they
>>>> will be
>>>> > > in.
>>>> > > > > > This
>>>> > > > > > > would be helpful for determining what existing PRs need to
>>>> make
>>>> > it
>>>> > > into
>>>> > > > > > > 2.1.0. 2.1.0 is the LTM release, so patches for existing
>>>> features
>>>> > > will
>>>> > > > > be
>>>> > > > > > > backported (2.1.1, 2.1.2, 2.1.3, etc.) However, as defined
>>>> in
>>>> > [1],
>>>> > > > > > features
>>>> > > > > > > that don't make it into 2.1.0 will go into the next non-LTM
>>>> > release
>>>> > > > > > (2.2.0)
>>>> > > > > > > and any patches to bugs in those features will go into the
>>>> next
>>>> > > non-LTM
>>>> > > > > > > release after that (2.3.0).
>>>> > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > I'm not trying to hold up the 2.1.0 release by suggesting
>>>> that we
>>>> > > > > perform
>>>> > > > > > > this activity. I'm just asking what the future holds, even
>>>> if
>>>> > it's
>>>> > > just
>>>> > > > > > one
>>>> > > > > > > feature in the next non-LTM release. My concern is that the
>>>> next
>>>> > > > > release
>>>> > > > > > > will be open-ended and anything not included in 2.1.0 might
>>>> not
>>>> > > get put
>>>> > > > > > > into a release for a very long time.
>>>> > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > [1]
>>>> https://accumulo.apache.org/contributor/versioning.html#LTM
>>>> > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 31, 2022 at 11:43 AM Mike Miller <
>>>> mmil...@apache.org
>>>> > >
>>>> > > > > wrote:
>>>> > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > Starting an email chain of things that folks want to
>>>> finish for
>>>> > > 2.1.
>>>> > > > > > Here
>>>> > > > > > > > is what we currently have in the works that are most
>>>> likely
>>>> > going
>>>> > > > > into
>>>> > > > > > > 2.1:
>>>> > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/accumulo/pull/2569
>>>> > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/accumulo/pull/2600
>>>> > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/accumulo/pull/2293
>>>> > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > Some things that may go into 2.1:
>>>> > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/accumulo/pull/2422
>>>> > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/accumulo/pull/2475
>>>> > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/accumulo/pull/2197
>>>> > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > I created a Project for follow on work to the ZK property
>>>> > > change. I
>>>> > > > > was
>>>> > > > > > > > planning on putting tasks in there that we want to
>>>> complete for
>>>> > > 2.1.
>>>> > > > > > But
>>>> > > > > > > we
>>>> > > > > > > > could also use it for post 2.1 work.
>>>> > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/accumulo/projects/24
>>>> > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/accumulo/issues/2469
>>>> > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > FYI a draft copy of the release notes has already been on
>>>> the
>>>> > > > > website:
>>>> > > > > > > > https://accumulo.apache.org/release/accumulo-2.1.0/
>>>> > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > This may be a good thread to discuss whether or not a task
>>>> > needs
>>>> > > to
>>>> > > > > go
>>>> > > > > > > into
>>>> > > > > > > > 2.1 or should wait for the next version. We currently
>>>> have 32
>>>> > > open
>>>> > > > > pull
>>>> > > > > > > > requests so please email me if there is one that you
>>>> would like
>>>> > > > > > > prioritized
>>>> > > > > > > > for 2.1.
>>>> > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > >
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>

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