Hi Kevin, 5.x is not dead. HornetQ JMS engine has a good architecture and performances and was donated to ActiveMQ project so we can join efforts in creating a next generation broker that will be faster and more stable. It is not a drop-in replacement for the current 5.x. So the development of 6.x and 5.x will continue in parallel for a long while. There has been work already done on 6.x compatibility with the current ActiveMQ clients, but that’s just a start.
We should document all this and lay the roadmap for future development soon after the release. Regards -- Dejan Bosanac ---------------------- Red Hat, Inc. [email protected] Twitter: @dejanb Blog: http://sensatic.net ActiveMQ in Action: http://www.manning.com/snyder/ On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 5:35 AM, Kevin Burton <[email protected]> wrote: > Why call it ActiveMQ 6.0 and not HornetMQ (or another name)? > > Is hornetq a fork of ActiveMQ ? > > We’re still having issues with ActiveMQ and the idea of migrating to > another projects sounds like a nightmare for us. > > There are people using the current code base of ActiveMQ and this means > that 5.x is dead. > > Unless I’m missing something. Which I hope I am :) > > I’ll try to do a lot more reading on the subject and ActiveMQ 6.0.. maybe > it will solve all my problems :) > > On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 8:05 PM, Clebert Suconic < > [email protected]> > wrote: > > > as we said on the vote thread, activemq6 is This is a first release of > > the HornetQ code donation with support for AMQP, STOMP, CORE and > > OPENWIRE. > > > > It's a new dev effort and it's from a different repo: > > https://github.com/apache/activemq-6/ > > > > So I don't think the issue you mentioned would affect the new repo / > > codebase. > > > > We are being quite active on moving forward with this codebase and we > > are striving and working hard here. So any issues please let us know. > > > > On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 10:18 PM, Kevin Burton <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Yes. Sort of. There was a regression for persistent=false which > breaks > > it > > > for advisories. > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AMQ-5665 > > > > > > I was *hoping* it fixed the issue. > > > > > > If it doesn’t I was going to write a test and then git bisect to find > > where > > > it broke. > > > > > > One other problem I ran into: > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/activemq > > > > > > Does not have the source for 6.0.0 (unless I’m missing something.) > > > > > > master is 5.11 snapshot and there are no 6.0.0 branches.. > > > > > > The other issue I had, was that a lot of the modules changed. So I was > > > trying to track down the source to figure out which modules have been > > > renamed but of course I can’t find the source :-P > > > > > > We’re still trying to deploy a pretty large ActiveMQ install. Right > now > > > it’s on 8 servers and has about 80GB of messages. 5.10.x has had a > > number > > > of issues for us. I fixed two significant ones but they weren’t merged > > for > > > 6.0.0. The pull request was for 5.10.x and 5.11.x but it seems to have > > > been left behind? It was about 2 days worth of work and fixes a pretty > > > major scalability issue for ActiveMQ with a large number of queues. > > > > > > I’m also pretty convinced I’ve found another bug whereby the entire > queue > > > serves messages at about 1/100th the correct speed and queues grow very > > > large with nothing being served. I was going to try to get on 5.11 or > > > 6.0.0 but I can’t with the above bug in advisories. > > > > > > I don’t mind stepping in and fixing these issues btw. But I need to > > figure > > > out the right way to contribute so my pull requests don’t go into > > > purgatory. Not pointing figures.. I just need to figure out a way to > > avoid > > > having my work left behind. > > > > > > Maybe officially rejecting the pull request with a reason would help? > > > > > > Purgatory and lost work seems to be a far worst situation than a ‘no, > > we’re > > > not going to merge that because of X’ because I can fix this situation! > > :) > > > > > > If I know how to resolve these I’ll take my patches out of the > graveyard > > > and port them to 6.0.0 and then get the AMQ-5665 fixed and get a pull > > > request for that as well. > > > > > > Kevin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 7:02 PM, Clebert Suconic < > > [email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > >> At this point we need java8 to build the source, but the target > > >> compilation still java 1.7 > > >> > > >> We are not using any java8 features at this point. We kind of stepped > > >> back on being strict about java8. We could have updated the docs but > > >> since we kept java8 to build the source we are still recommending > > >> java8. > > >> > > >> > > >> The testsuite is running on java8 now, but it has been on java7 up > > >> till recently. > > >> > > >> > > >> I would recommend java8 as java7 is almost EOL but it still safe to > > >> use java7 on the binaries at this point. > > >> > > >> > > >> Are you evaluating it already? We are looking for feedback about it... > > >> we are still under voting for the release.. so any feedback helps! > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 9:48 PM, Kevin Burton <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > >> > Just curious. We’re still on Java 1.7. I assume Java 8 features > are > > >> > actually used. Might be bad news for us but I can see it being a > > >> > reasonable requirement at this point. > > >> > > > >> > -- > > >> > > > >> > Founder/CEO Spinn3r.com > > >> > Location: *San Francisco, CA* > > >> > blog: http://burtonator.wordpress.com > > >> > … or check out my Google+ profile > > >> > <https://plus.google.com/102718274791889610666/posts> > > >> > <http://spinn3r.com> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> -- > > >> Clebert Suconic > > >> http://community.jboss.org/people/[email protected] > > >> http://clebertsuconic.blogspot.com > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Founder/CEO Spinn3r.com > > > Location: *San Francisco, CA* > > > blog: http://burtonator.wordpress.com > > > … or check out my Google+ profile > > > <https://plus.google.com/102718274791889610666/posts> > > > <http://spinn3r.com> > > > > > > > > -- > > Clebert Suconic > > http://community.jboss.org/people/[email protected] > > http://clebertsuconic.blogspot.com > > > > > > -- > > Founder/CEO Spinn3r.com > Location: *San Francisco, CA* > blog: http://burtonator.wordpress.com > … or check out my Google+ profile > <https://plus.google.com/102718274791889610666/posts> > <http://spinn3r.com> >
