Oh let’s not go there Chris :-). You won’t like the answers.
Who are you affiliated with, Chris?
christopher.l.shannon wrote
> As someone who has no affiliation with Red Hat (I don't work for them and
> I
> am not a customer) I do get pretty tired of all the accusations as well
> and
> getting lumped into having an agenda.
>
> I am a heavy 5.x user and I have contributed to the project quite a bit
> the
> past couple of years. My motivation for wanting Artemis to succeed is
> purely a technical one. I have evaluated both brokers and Artemis is not
> perfect but it has a good architecture and in my opinion is a good
> foundation for building the best broker possible. Others can disagree and
> that is fine but that is my reasoning.
>
> Martyn brings up a point that I have avoided bringing up until now but I
> will bring it up because I'm pretty tired of all of the accusations about
> company agendas. I think it's pretty obvious from anyone paying attention
> to see that the people who are voting -1 are the same people who are not
> involved in the community at all. Jeff and Hadrian and company...when's
> the last time you guys actually contributed anything to the project?
> Answered a user question? Fixed a bug? Joined in on a technical
> discussion? Did a release? Fixed a CVE? The only time you guys show up is
> on threads like this.
>
> To all the people who voted -1 because you don't think that Artemis is
> ready to become ActiveMQ 6 because of lack of migration and features...how
> about you guys actually help contribute and make it a reality instead of
> making accusations?
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 6:26 AM, Martyn Taylor <
> mtaylor@
> > wrote:
>
>> To be quite frank, I'm offended by some of the accusations made in this
>> thread.
>>
>> After the last round of accusations of Red Hat are pushing through their
>> own agenda, I'm sad to see it happening again. I continue to use my Red
>> Hat email address in public discussions, in my PR requests and review.
>> I've nothing to hide nor am I ashamed to be employed by a company like
>> Red
>> Hat. My legions lie with ActiveMQ and making the project and community a
>> better place. I've put so much personal and emotional effort into this
>> project. To have my votes and opinions abrogated just because I work for
>> a
>> certain company I find shocking and not at all democratic.
>>
>> Actually, looking back through this vote thread to the people who voted
>> +1,
>> who were accused of pushing an alternate agenda are actually the same
>> people who I see involved in the community on a day to day basis. The
>> same
>> people fixing bugs, answering user questions and doing releases. And
>> they're not all employed by the same company.
>>
>> If people want to vote -1 to this, fair enough you're entitled to your
>> vote
>> and I have no issue. But, all this talk about companies pushing an
>> agenda,
>> seems to me to be a bit of a guise to detract away from the actual
>> subject
>> in hand. TBH, I am sick of hearing about it.
>>
>> I respect the result of the vote.
>>
>> I am -1 on the idea of making Artemis TLP.
>> I am +1 on Bruce's suggestion on creating a Roadmap. I think this is
>> really what we need right now.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 3:41 AM, Michael André Pearce <
>>
> michael.andre.pearce@
>> wrote:
>>
>> > On the website front I’m happy to stick my hand up, giving it an
>> overhaul
>> > and design inline with the new logo.
>> >
>> > Mike
>> >
>> > Sent from my iPhone
>> >
>> > > On 6 Dec 2017, at 22:57, Bruce Snyder <
> bruce.snyder@
> > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > I agree that the website needs an overhaul and I'm interested to take
>> on
>> > > this task. I also agree that Artemis should somehow be made more
>> > prominent
>> > > on the website, but how to do this is more debatable. I will start a
>> > > separate discussion around this.
>> > >
>> > > More discussions on the dev list is *always* a good thing.
>> > >
>> > > Bruce
>> > >
>> > > On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 3:43 PM, Clebert Suconic <
>> >
> clebert.suconic@
>>
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> Ok... so, consider this a CANCEL on this vote...
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> I think we have things settled.. and some positive factors from this
>> > >> thread:
>> > >>
>> > >> - All agreed to make Artemis more prominent on the website.
>> > >> - Refactor the website... like.. now... with Artemis being brought
>> > >> forward.. (the website needs a facelift regardless)
>> > >> ... any volunteers here?
>> > >> ... we will need a discuss here... Honestly I don't like the
>> confluent
>> > >> wiki.
>> > >> - Have more discussions on the dev list
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > perl -e 'print
>> > >
>> unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*"
> > );'
>> > >
>> > > ActiveMQ in Action: http://bit.ly/2je6cQ
>> > > Blog: http://bsnyder.org/ <http://bruceblog.org/>
>> > > Twitter: http://twitter.com/brucesnyder
>> >
>>
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