What about this. WE could : - commit this on git - upload a snapshot for review under our web-site. On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 8:46 AM Clebert Suconic <clebert.suco...@gmail.com> wrote: > > +1000. We had that options discussed here a few times. Having the old > website somewhere with a link is the way to go for the migration. > > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 7:47 AM michael.andre.pearce > <michael.andre.pea...@me.com.invalid> wrote: >> >> Sounds good to me. >> >> >> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. >> -------- Original message --------From: Martyn Taylor <mtay...@redhat.com> >> Date: 22/10/2018 12:38 (GMT+00:00) To: dev@activemq.apache.org Subject: >> Re: Website >> How about an equivalent message on the home page of the new website, >> directing users to the old site? >> >> On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 10:39 PM Bruce Snyder <bruce.sny...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> > Check out the Camel website and the message that they posted about their >> > website changes that are underway: >> > >> > https://camel.apache.org/ >> > >> > Bruce >> > >> > On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 3:30 AM Martyn Taylor <mtay...@redhat.com> wrote: >> > >> > > On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 8:38 PM Bruce Snyder <bruce.sny...@gmail.com> >> > > wrote: >> > > >> > > > Fair points, Martyn. I like the idea of a combination of JIRA issues >> > > plus a >> > > > list of those issues that is easily visible somewhere such as the wiki. >> > > > >> > > > Seeing as how we are moving the website around completely, I believe we >> > > > need to include the docs to support the older versions in some way. So, >> > > the >> > > > first thought that came to mind is a search capability in order for >> > users >> > > > to find them easier. Another idea, we could also keep the old site >> > intact >> > > > and available as a sub-domain or URL, e.g., 5x.activemq.apache.org, >> > > > activemq.apache.org/5.x, etc. However, the advantage of a search >> > feature >> > > > is >> > > > that it would be useful across the site, not just for older stuff. We >> > > might >> > > > even be able structure the search to allow users to select a version of >> > > the >> > > > docs that they would like to search. Anyway, just some thoughts. >> > > > >> > > > I agree that we should try to get the new site functional ASAP, but >> > that >> > > > should not eliminate the old site entirely. We should not abandon users >> > > of >> > > > older versions. >> > > > >> > > +1 Bruce. >> > > >> > > I had thought that the export of the current site into the gitbook had >> > all >> > > the info, but perhaps there are missing pieces. I like the idea of >> > keeping >> > > the old site running and link to it from the new site. This ensures >> > > existing users have all the info they need, but let's us move forward >> > with >> > > new content. Perhaps we can switch out the exiting home page for the new >> > > one and add a link to old website AMQ project page ("Existing users >> > looking >> > > for the original ActiveMQ website click here."). If we are able to get >> > > some stats on number of accesses to a particular page, we can use that >> > info >> > > to prioritise porting older content. >> > > >> > > Search, feature also a good idea, but I'm not sure how much effort would >> > be >> > > involved, there is already a search feature in the gitbook document >> > (linked >> > > to on the project page). >> > > >> > > How about we fill in the existing placeholder content and add links to >> > the >> > > old sites from each project page (and the home page)? We could go live >> > > with this? Then start working through the nice to haves/criticals. I >> > > think once we're live and the code is available, the community will be >> > more >> > > inclined to report/fixing issues. >> > > >> > > Cheers >> > > >> > > > >> > > > Bruce >> > > > >> > > > On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 2:44 AM Martyn Taylor <mtay...@redhat.com> >> > > wrote: >> > > > >> > > > > Cheers gents, looks like we're all set with the git repos. >> > > > > >> > > > > Shall we start putting together a ToDo list for what needs to happen >> > to >> > > > > move to the new site? JIRA perhaps? >> > > > > >> > > > > Bruce you mentioned a search feature for older content. Can you >> > > > elaborate >> > > > > on this. Also, there's the actual content for the pages, key >> > features, >> > > > > users etc... Perhaps we can all contribute to these? I could take >> > care >> > > > of >> > > > > the Artemis side of things, if people with more experience in NMS, >> > CMS >> > > > and >> > > > > 5.x could come up with some content for the project home pages? >> > > > > >> > > > > I agree with Michael in that it'd be good to get the new site running >> > > > even >> > > > > if it's not 100% perfect then iteratively improve on it. >> > > > > >> > > > > Cheers >> > > > > >> > > > > On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 12:56 AM Clebert Suconic < >> > > > > clebert.suco...@gmail.com> >> > > > > wrote: >> > > > > >> > > > > > How to delete one now ? >> > > > > > >> > > > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 6:55 PM Bruce Snyder < >> > bruce.sny...@gmail.com> >> > > > > > wrote: >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Whoops, I just created one as well: >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf?p=activemq-website.git >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Bruce >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 8:49 AM Clebert Suconic < >> > > > > > clebert.suco...@gmail.com> >> > > > > > > wrote: >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > New repo created: >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf?p=activemq-www.git >> > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 10:47 AM Clebert Suconic >> > > > > > > > <clebert.suco...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Robbie Gemmel pointed me to https://gitbox.apache.org/ >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > I'm trying to create one now: >> > > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 10:36 AM Clebert Suconic >> > > > > > > > > <clebert.suco...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > That's for Bruce Snyder then... >> > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 10:29 AM Justin Bertram < >> > > > > > jbert...@redhat.com> >> > > > > > > > wrote: >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > There's a "Create a new Git repository" option on >> > > > > > > > > > > https://selfserve.apache.org/. I clicked it and logged >> > > in, >> > > > > but >> > > > > > > > apparently >> > > > > > > > > > > it's restricted to ASF members and PMC chairs. >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Justin >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 9:24 AM Clebert Suconic < >> > > > > > > > clebert.suco...@gmail.com> >> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > I create an Infra JIRA for this: >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-17124 >> > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 9:49 AM Clebert Suconic >> > > > > > > > > > > > <clebert.suco...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > I asked infra and no reponse. >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone know any procedure on creating a repo at >> > > > > apache? >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > I did ask infra about something what to do.. but so >> > far >> > > > no >> > > > > > > > response. I >> > > > > > > > > > > > > know they are busy.. so if anyone here knows a better >> > > way >> > > > > to >> > > > > > > > handle >> > > > > > > > > > > > > this.... >> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 9:14 AM Clebert Suconic >> > > > > > > > > > > > > <clebert.suco...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just initiated a thread at apache infra list, >> > > asking >> > > > > for >> > > > > > > > guidance on >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > how to setup things. >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > will keep it posted here. >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 9:01 AM Christopher Shannon >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > <christopher.l.shan...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for getting the website discussion >> > > > restarted. I >> > > > > > > > think it >> > > > > > > > > > > > will be >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > quite beneficial if we can get the new website >> > live >> > > > and >> > > > > > > have >> > > > > > > > more >> > > > > > > > > > > > clear >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > information on there such as what Artemis is, >> > etc. >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Oct 6, 2018 at 9:13 AM Clebert Suconic < >> > > > > > > > > > > > clebert.suco...@gmail.com> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will handle it next week. >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 5:09 PM Bruce Snyder < >> > > > > > > > > > > > bruce.sny...@gmail.com> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Clebert, >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It would be very helpful if you could create >> > a >> > > > git >> > > > > > repo >> > > > > > > > for it >> > > > > > > > > > > > and get >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > source code moved into there. >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bruce >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 7:58 AM Clebert >> > Suconic >> > > < >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > clebert.suco...@gmail.com> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @Bruce: Anything I can do to expedie this? >> > or >> > > > you >> > > > > > are >> > > > > > > > taking >> > > > > > > > > > > > care of >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the private repo? >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 1:52 AM >> > > > > michael.andre.pearce >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <michael.andre.pea...@me.com.invalid> >> > wrote: >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you noted because its using jekyll i >> > > could >> > > > > use >> > > > > > > > github >> > > > > > > > > > > > pages. >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One option is you could host it on asf >> > git, >> > > > > have >> > > > > > > the >> > > > > > > > github >> > > > > > > > > > > > clone >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > like >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we do with code and then use github pages, >> > > > simply >> > > > > > > > asking infra >> > > > > > > > > > > > to have >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sub domain point to the github pages. Not >> > > sure >> > > > if >> > > > > > > thats >> > > > > > > > > > > > allowed or not, >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if it is probably easiest. >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------- Original message --------From: >> > > Bruce >> > > > > > > Snyder >> > > > > > > > < >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bruce.sny...@gmail.com> Date: 02/10/2018 >> > > > 21:11 >> > > > > > > > (GMT+00:00) >> > > > > > > > > > > > To: >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dev@activemq.apache.org Subject: Re: >> > Website >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Great job, MIchael! I like the look of >> > this >> > > > > site. >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There's certainly work to be done as you >> > > > > > mentioned, >> > > > > > > > so I >> > > > > > > > > > > > don't think >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > can >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > take the place of the current site 100% >> > > just >> > > > > > yet. I >> > > > > > > > agree >> > > > > > > > > > > > that it >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > does >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > need to be perfect, but we need to >> > provide >> > > an >> > > > > > easy >> > > > > > > > way to >> > > > > > > > > > > > find the >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > information we know exists via search >> > > > > > functionality >> > > > > > > > or >> > > > > > > > > > > > something. >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The first action should be to move the >> > > source >> > > > > > into >> > > > > > > > an ASF >> > > > > > > > > > > > git repo so >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > everyone has access to it, allowing >> > others >> > > to >> > > > > > > > contribute. >> > > > > > > > > > > > This will >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > allow >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > us to deploy straight from the git repo >> > at >> > > > some >> > > > > > > > point, too. >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Has anyone recently investigated how to >> > > > deploy >> > > > > a >> > > > > > > > static >> > > > > > > > > > > > website from >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > git >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > repo to the sub-domain at the ASF? If >> > not, >> > > I >> > > > > will >> > > > > > > > dig into >> > > > > > > > > > > > it. >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bruce >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 8:40 AM >> > > > > > michael.andre.pearce >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <michael.andre.pea...@me.com.invalid> >> > > wrote: >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all, >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just wanted to get the ball rolling >> > > again >> > > > > on >> > > > > > > this >> > > > > > > > > > > > discussion, >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we've >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > made >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some great progress made on the initial >> > > > code >> > > > > > base >> > > > > > > > we >> > > > > > > > > > > > started a >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > while >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > back, >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we've created a responsive >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > design based on bootstrap which looks >> > > > pretty >> > > > > > > nice >> > > > > > > > on both >> > > > > > > > > > > > mobile >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > desktop, bringing us into 2018 ;). All >> > > the >> > > > > > > > content was >> > > > > > > > > > > > exported >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > current site by Bruce already, and now >> > > > lives >> > > > > > > under >> > > > > > > > the >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > documentation >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > link >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > on the ActiveMQ 5 project page. >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There's obviously still some work to do >> > > > but I >> > > > > > > > wanted to >> > > > > > > > > > > > send now to >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > get >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some early feedback and hopefully get >> > > some >> > > > > > input >> > > > > > > on >> > > > > > > > > > > > content for the >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > home >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pages for each project. What >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > do need to have happen to make this >> > > live. >> > > > > I'd >> > > > > > > > prefer not >> > > > > > > > > > > > to spend >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > months >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > trying to get this perfect, but if we >> > > could >> > > > > get >> > > > > > > an >> > > > > > > > MVP for >> > > > > > > > > > > > the >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > website >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > live >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and kicking, we can improve it >> > > iteratively >> > > > > over >> > > > > > > > time. >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'd love to here your thoughts, >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The code is here: >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > https://github.com/michaelandrepearce/activemq-website/ >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And a demohttps:// >> > > > > > > > > > > > michaelandrepearce.github.io/activemq-website >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Michael >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > perl -e 'print >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*" >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > );' >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ActiveMQ in Action: http://bit.ly/2je6cQ >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Blog: http://bsnyder.org/ < >> > > > > http://bruceblog.org/ >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Twitter: http://twitter.com/brucesnyder >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Clebert Suconic >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > perl -e 'print >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*" >> > > > > > );' >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ActiveMQ in Action: http://bit.ly/2je6cQ >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Blog: http://bsnyder.org/ < >> > > http://bruceblog.org/ >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Twitter: http://twitter.com/brucesnyder >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Clebert Suconic >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Clebert Suconic >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > -- >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Clebert Suconic >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > -- >> > > > > > > > > > > > Clebert Suconic >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > -- >> > > > > > > > > > Clebert Suconic >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > -- >> > > > > > > > > Clebert Suconic >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > -- >> > > > > > > > Clebert Suconic >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > -- >> > > > > > > perl -e 'print >> > > > > > > >> > > unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*" >> > > > > );' >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > ActiveMQ in Action: http://bit.ly/2je6cQ >> > > > > > > Blog: http://bsnyder.org/ <http://bruceblog.org/> >> > > > > > > Twitter: http://twitter.com/brucesnyder >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > -- >> > > > > > Clebert Suconic >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > -- >> > > > perl -e 'print >> > > > unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*" >> > );' >> > > > >> > > > ActiveMQ in Action: http://bit.ly/2je6cQ >> > > > Blog: http://bsnyder.org/ <http://bruceblog.org/> >> > > > Twitter: http://twitter.com/brucesnyder >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > perl -e 'print >> > unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*" );' >> > >> > ActiveMQ in Action: http://bit.ly/2je6cQ >> > Blog: http://bsnyder.org/ <http://bruceblog.org/> >> > Twitter: http://twitter.com/brucesnyder >> > > > -- > Clebert Suconic
-- Clebert Suconic
