That sounds right.  My 2cents - it would be nice to figure out the closest
thing to a working flow that we can get, and then worry about cleanup.

Art


On Wed, Aug 23, 2023 at 4:30 AM Christopher Shannon <
christopher.l.shan...@gmail.com> wrote:

> So maybe the activemq-openwire project should just be deprecated and go
> away since it is not used or maintained.
>
> It has been several years now but I'm pretty sure I just used the
> activemq-openwire-generator 5.x module (as Tim mentioned) to generate the
> latest v12 Openwire version that is in use today.
>
> https://github.com/apache/activemq/commit/3953b9aaefaee914bdd0702f27aef47c021ceb27
>
> On Tue, Aug 22, 2023 at 5:49 PM Arthur Naseef <a...@amlinv.com> wrote:
>
> > Thank you Tim.  That helps.
> >
> > Art
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 22, 2023 at 2:23 PM Timothy Bish <tabish...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > On 8/22/23 15:28, Arthur Naseef wrote:
> > > > I'd like to ask first to get some clarification.
> > > >
> > > > Using the activemq-openwire project, I was able to get it to generate
> > > > openwire Java code, but that code did not exactly match the code in
> the
> > > > activemq codebase.  It appeared to be mostly non-functional
> > differences,
> > > > such as packages being renamed, and import statements vs.
> > full-qualified
> > > > class names in the code.
> > > >
> > > > Here are my questions:
> > > >
> > > >     - What is the process for building and releasing a new version of
> > the
> > > >     openwire protocol?
> > >
> > > There is no process other than running the generator in the ActiveMQ
> > > tree if you can get it to run, I don't recall if there's anything
> > > written down now that explains it as it has been years since I touched
> > > it and my memory is foggy.  I vaguely recall there being an antrun
> > > target in the pom file to run the generator so something like 'mvn
> > > antrun:run'.
> > >
> > > possibly some insights here:
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://github.com/apache/activemq-nms-openwire-generator/blob/d16ff371fecade87f97942cdf0174ab790bc999c/pom.xml#L172
> > >
> > >
> > > >     - Where are the NMS and C++ parts generated?  Are there others
> > > generated
> > > >     as well?
> > >
> > > I already answered this, please read my previous response.
> > >
> > >
> > > >     - How much manual intervention is needed in that process (e.g.
> are
> > > the
> > > >     java files generated, then copied and editted before being
> > committed
> > > in the
> > > >     main project)?
> > >
> > > I don't recall anymore if there is much intervention needed other than
> > > generating the new marshallers but I do recall that KahaDB has some
> > > settings that indicate which version it uses as a baseline.  I'd look
> at
> > > git commits in the 5.x code around the marshaller version code and see
> > > what was touched in the commit.
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Art
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Aug 22, 2023 at 12:22 PM Matt Pavlovich <mattr...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Hi-
> > > >>
> > > >> The activmeq-openwire project is currently hosted in a separate git
> > > >> repository. The project is used to generate marshaller classes for
> > > multiple
> > > >> languages and would be suitable for supporting multi-broker openwire
> > > >> support as well (5.x and Artemis). However, it does not appear to be
> > > active
> > > >> in any build lifecycle or toolchain for any of the ActiveMQ
> projects.
> > > >>
> > > >> I propose that we host the activemq-openwire project in the main 5.x
> > > tree
> > > >> for a couple reasons:
> > > >>
> > > >> 1. JDK changes and overall maintenance is easier from a single repo.
> > We
> > > >> can add notes able compatibility or a README-VERSIONS.md to note
> what
> > > >> product releases go to which protocol versions, and when those
> > protocol
> > > >> versions changed.
> > > >>
> > > >> 2. ActiveMQ 5.x uses openwire as its internal native protocol. It
> > makes
> > > >> sense to host it there, especially of things like enhancements to
> > > network
> > > >> connector commands, which other client libraries and brokers usually
> > do
> > > not
> > > >> adopt fully.
> > > >>
> > > >> 3. There are planned enhancements coming that most likely require
> > > openwire
> > > >> version bumps:
> > > >>      - JMS 2.0 support features
> > > >>      - Replication support (using Network Connectors)
> > > >>
> > > >> Discuss.
> > > >>
> > > >> Thank you,
> > > >> Matt Pavlovich
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > >
> > > --
> > > Tim Bish
> > >
> > >
> >
>

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